Prime tito @ 147 vs Margarito

[machotime]

Easy question TITO by UD, KO, or decapitation... his power at welter was untouchable. Tito didnt back up against Bhop why the hell would he against a smaller lesser puncher in Margarito.

[Pullcounter]

I absolutely agree that a prime Tito can fight the full 12 rounds, but what happens if Tony can take his best punch? What else does he have to rely on? That's why I think Margarito stops him. Without the punch, Tito is nothing, and Margarito may well have been able to take that punch.

Sucks we'll never know the truth.

tito was knocking out middleweights. prime tito never gives up even when taking a severe beating (see hopkins/tito). also tito will hit margarito low to buy some time. prime tito had a lot of heart.

[RightHandLead]

tito was knocking out middleweights. prime tito never gives up even when taking a severe beating (see hopkins/tito). also tito will hit margarito low to buy some time. prime tito had a lot of heart.

It would make for a hell of a fight but I just can't see a Trinidad win if Tony could take his punch. Sure Tito would still be hanging in there, grinding it out and throwing back but he doesn't throw like Margarito does. He's never thrown 150 punches in a round before, last night Margarito threw 130 in 1 round followed by 127. I think it was rounds 5 and 6.

I can't see Tito being able to take that pressure. I'm sure he could take Margarito's best punch, but Margarito doesn't have a single best punch, it's an accumulation of punches.

[machotime]

It would make for a hell of a fight but I just can't see a Trinidad win if Tony could take his punch. Sure Tito would still be hanging in there, grinding it out and throwing back but he doesn't throw like Margarito does. He's never thrown 150 punches in a round before, last night Margarito threw 130 in 1 round followed by 127. I think it was rounds 5 and 6.

I can't see Tito being able to take that pressure. I'm sure he could take Margarito's best punch, but Margarito doesn't have a single best punch, it's an accumulation of punches.

Margarito had trouble taking Daniel Santos' punch (JMW). Margarito would be getting backed up and brutalized. Tito is not nearly as small as Cotto, Margarito wouldnt be able to bully Tito.

[Pullcounter]

It would make for a hell of a fight but I just can't see a Trinidad win if Tony could take his punch. Sure Tito would still be hanging in there, grinding it out and throwing back but he doesn't throw like Margarito does. He's never thrown 150 punches in a round before, last night Margarito threw 130 in 1 round followed by 127. I think it was rounds 5 and 6.

I can't see Tito being able to take that pressure. I'm sure he could take Margarito's best punch, but Margarito doesn't have a single best punch, it's an accumulation of punches.

cotto landed the better, flush and more eye-catching punches. if cotto wasn't gassed and kept on countering margarito with flush shots instead of gassing he would've won.

tito beats margarito even if margarito can take the punishment.

[RightHandLead]

Margarito had trouble taking Daniel Santos' punch (JMW). Margarito would be getting backed up and brutalized. Tito is not nearly as small as Cotto, Margarito wouldnt be able to bully Tito.

I don't think Margarito had that much trouble handling Santos' punches, the headbutts were what did the most damage (why the fight was stopped).

While Tito may not be as small as Cotto, he's still the smaller man against Margarito. Not in terms of heigh or reach but in terms of rehydrated weight.

We'll have to agree to disagree.

[RightHandLead]

cotto landed the better, flush and more eye-catching punches. if cotto wasn't gassed and kept on countering margarito with flush shots instead of gassing he would've won.

tito beats margarito even if margarito can take the punishment.

I agree that Cotto did land the cleaner, more effective blows in the fight, but that doesn't matter considering they never hurt Margarito. I myself had the fight a draw when the fight was stopped.

But you're implying Cotto would've gotten the decision had he survived the 11th? Absurd! 2 of the 3 official judges had Margarito ahead by 2 points, and 1 had it a draw (the right scoring). Cotto went down twice in the 11th, if he survived it would've been a 10-7 round. Putting Margarito u pby 2 points on 1 card, and 3 on the other 2. Cotto would've lost even if he had won the 12th which would've been impossible in his current state.

And don't blame Cotto's loss on his "gassing". Who made him gas out? Margarito, that's who. Stop trying to discredit the man.

[them_apples]

I agree that Cotto did land the cleaner, more effective blows in the fight, but that doesn't matter considering they never hurt Margarito. I myself had the fight a draw when the fight was stopped.

How could you have had it a Draw? yes Cotto was fighting back but he was running and in Pain the entire time. you sure you weren't listening to the HBO commentators?

Margerito was busting him up half way through the fight. I lost some cash because of it

[machotime]

I don't think Margarito had that much trouble handling Santos' punches, the headbutts were what did the most damage (why the fight was stopped).

While Tito may not be as small as Cotto, he's still the smaller man against Margarito. Not in terms of heigh or reach but in terms of rehydrated weight.

We'll have to agree to disagree.

They are the same height. Tito has KOd middleweights. Tony was hurt by Daniel Santos on several occasions. Tito would murder Margarito.

[RightHandLead]

How could you have had it a Draw? yes Cotto was fighting back but he was running and in Pain the entire time. you sure you weren't listening to the HBO commentators?

Margerito was busting him up half way through the fight. I lost some cash because of it

I had it a draw because of Cotto's early work. I think Cotto clearly won 5 of the first 6 rounds, moving effectively, landing the more telling blows, controlling the pace of the fight. Margarito looked foolish early because he hadn't gotten into his pace yet.

So Cotto built up an early lead. Which led to the draw on my card.