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  • Silencers
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    #11
    For the most part his movement wasn't really wasted, he wanted to create room for his jab by moving backwards but I agree that he should have clinched more, clinching would have bought him some breathing time and space.

    And I think Cotto going to the ropes is more what Margarito did than what Cotto wanted to do, I think Cotto wanted to use his jab, pick his spots and circle Margarito but Margarito did a good job of pushing Cotto back to the ropes, and Cotto was doing a pretty good job of blocking or slipping shots on the ropes but as the OP said, he's not Mayweather or Whitaker, he couldn't keep that up for the duration of the fight, he's not that kind of fighter.

    Honestly, I think Margarito didn't allow Cotto to make his adjustments because of his workrate and pressure.

    Good post overall.

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    • flodistheshizle
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      #12
      Originally posted by kayjay
      A lot of good points, Dios. I think #2 is the key one. You cannot move that much in a fight, especially if you're eating body punches as well.
      Not if your Mayweather.Mayweather has the Stamina to move all night.

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      • kayjay
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        #13
        Originally posted by flodistheshizle
        Not if your Mayweather.Mayweather has the Stamina to move all night.
        I don't know, but it doesn't matter. Mayweather would never let the pace get away from him like Cotto did. Cotto moved all night in a fast-paced fight. You'd have to look hard to find a fight in which a guy actually moved as much as Cotto did last night, and threw a lot of punches, and took a lot of punches.

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        • williamhvx1
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          #14
          Great Stuff There Dominiqui But I Do Notice That Is Almost Imposible To Hit Margarito On The Body Becuse Is Long Arms Can Cover Is Body And The Same Time Is Hand Is Face..

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          • TCNŽ SOULJAH
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            #15
            Originally posted by flodistheshizle
            Not if your Mayweather.Mayweather has the Stamina to move all night.
            Plus the movement and defence to avoid eating body punches.

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            • DIOS DOMINICANO
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              #16
              Originally posted by williamhvx1
              Great Stuff There Dominiqui But I Do Notice That Is Almost Imposible To Hit Margarito On The Body Becuse Is Long Arms Can Cover Is Body And The Same Time Is Hand Is Face..
              Winky is also like that, but Winky is mostly in the shell, and TM is very active. When Tony throws that wide left hook....BOOM... hard counter right downstairs.

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              • Ray*
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                #17
                This just shows that Cotto isnt the SKILLED boxer some of his delusional fans try to claim he was, He was VERY uncomfortable boxing on the backfoot and it showed.

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                  #18
                  DiOs u completely read my mind on every point!!! Good Job!! Cotto should of known better then that

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                  • TCNŽ SOULJAH
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by DIOS DOMINICANO
                    Winky is also like that, but Winky is mostly in the shell, and TM is very active. When Tony throws that wide left hook....BOOM... hard counter right downstairs.
                    He makes the same point that I was making before about hitting Margarito to the body.

                    If you look @ Cotto's bodypunching, he doesn't always need to wait for his opponents to let they hands go.
                    Sometimes it happens that way, but not always.
                    An opponent can have they arms in the guard position with the elbows giving some coverage @ the sides but Cotto still breaks through with his power because the protection offered is only partial or not strong enough.
                    He saw he couldn't do that with Margarito because those elbows tuck in so low and make too good a guard agin those hooks.
                    So if you a bodypunch artist --- when Margarito lets his hands go, you need to have the radar timing and accuracy to get in those gaps and avoid the temptation to always go for the wide open target up top.

                    My doubt was that Cotto's timing was ever good enough to exploit the openings and get his hooks off to Margarito's body.

                    He isn't slow. But he isn't quick enough.

                    He isn't inaccurate. But he isn't accurate enough.

                    He isn't unskilled. But he isn't skilled enough.


                    The jab to the pit of the stomach was made a no-go by the way Margarito leans in in that awkward way when he come forward, coming in chest first instead of flat on.

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                    • Kobe Bryant
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                      #20
                      I definitely agree with the ropes issue. He was tired and tried to rest on the ropes and slug it out. Not smart at all. And he had some defensive lapses. Why weren't his hands up in the 11th? If he avoided those two nasty uppercuts by picking his hands up we would be calling him a legend right now.

                      This is what happens when you are fatigued. There are only a few guys who can still operate at a high level when almost out of gas. Cotto forgot his fundamentals when he got tired. He did away with the jab and focused on flashy head shots that Margarito ate pretty well.

                      You are correct there was no adjustment. Miguel should have tried something else when he realized he couldn't hurt Margarito. The center of the ring is where this fight should have been. The worst that could have happened was an inside fight in the center of the ring. And Cotto fast hands on the inside would have been prominent. Instead he positioned himself on the ropes as a target and took a beating.

                      This should have been a very boring fight. Cotto's jab is excellent. He could have dominated a whole fight with the jab like Winky often does.

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