The Morning-After Pill: What Miguel Quitto did wrong....

[FISTIC ART]

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Who cares......

the porta reecan pitbull got no rice and beans.........

and the mexican burrito just pushed forward like a mexican mariachi band......

if cotto knew how to box he would have made it a boring fight and won easily......

marg is one dimensional.....so thats says alot about cotto.....

welfare cotto had to show his macho.......well until the end when he quit and walked out saying..........

i dont wanna talk to max kellerman..............boo hooo........

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

Yeah. I didn't see Cotto attacking Tony's body. But he will on the rematch.

Honestly? i don't want to see a rematch. For Cotto's sake.

In a rematch, margarito comes out ON FIRE and tries to blow Cotto away. Miguel now knows that he can't hurt Tony. This is the first time that MC faces a guy knowing in his head 'I can't hurt him'. And Marg just walks forward and blasts away.

Do you remember how Baldomir was just walking walking forward on Judah , like "come on"? That is what Tony would do. And Miguel has no choice but to run, run , run.

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

Side topic...too many threads.

Other than Williams, is Oscar Delahoya the toughest fight for Antonio Margarito?

[jack_the_rippuh]

Other than Williams, is Oscar Delahoya the toughest fight for Antonio Margarito?

Oscar De La Hoya has slown down, but people are making it seem like he's shot to pieces.
He can still beat alot of fighters out there.
In fact, I think he has more left in the tank than ****ty Shane.

I say he beats Margarito.

[Mozza]

Other than Williams, is Oscar Delahoya the toughest fight for Antonio Margarito?

It depends. I don't think so actually.

[Da Hammer]

haha im watching the replay of the fight on youtube right now and i just noticed that at the final seconds of the 6th round a combination that margarito landed on cotto at the corner knocked blood out of cotto into the HBO camera with the stain of blood clearly visible. lol just a little observation.

anyway yea i guess other than williams i really dont see much of a challenge for margarito at welterweight. de la hoya will get killed if they fight

[The_Italian]

Miguel Cotto made a number of mistakes (IMHO). As I was watching the fight, I was observing these.

1) Where was the bodywork? Miguel went almost exclusively upstairs. While he was snapping Tony's head, he failed to balance his attack by employing jabs to the stomach to disrupt Tony, and left hooks to the body to soften TM up.

2) Too much movement. FMJ is often called a "runner". I have watched every FMJ fight since he was a prospect. I have NEVER seen him run as much as Miguel did. While some (SOME!) of that movement was warranted, Migs wasted GOBS of energy with the 10K that he ran in the ring. Where was the clinching? Clinching eats up time, and gives you a breather. Why didn't he ever tie Tony up and walk him back? If you look at fights like FMJ/hatton, or Oscar/Vargas, they tied their man up, or used smart breaks to take some of the steam off. You can't RUN for 12 rounds. Running backwards and changing directions uses more energy than the guy who is just walking forward. Imagine if Tony had even the slightest inkling on how to cut off a ring.

3) Quitto kept it on the perimeter. Who has done well against Tony? Clottey? Yes. Williams? Surely. Where were those fights fought? Largely in the center of the ring. Up close. Who has done really poorly against TM? Golden. Cintron. and now Quito. Where did they all get knocked out? against the ropes. You can't stay at arms length vs a tall man. Sugar Ray Leonard found that out vs Hearns, and that is why he came inside and became the ****er. Quitto's mistake is that he was ending up on the powerful part of Tony's punches, instead of stepping inside and smothering that power. He allowed Margie to have full leverage. Never tied him up with elbows, forearms, holding, etc.

4) One pace. Think about the fight. You almost can't distinguish one round from the next. The fight was going by so fast for two reasons: a) it was a very good fight. But b) because it was the same **** happening over and over. Do you remember when Floyd had ricky hurt at the end of round 8? What did he do in round 9? Move in for the kill? No. He jabbed Ricky silly. Changed the pace. Kept the guy off balance. Boxing is about adjustments. Miguel just kept circling and countering, and Tony kept getting closer and closer. Against Shane, Miguel made the late-round adjustment to backpedal and box. Against Tony, he tried that tactic for the WHOLE FIGHT. This sounds strange to say, but the fight I was reminded of mostly was Taylor-Chavez.

5) "Don't try this at home". There are guys who can sit on the ropes and defend and who feel very comfortable there. They can stay on the ropes and avoid leather all night. Those guys have names like Whitaker and Mayweather. Miguel, you are a terrific fighter. But that isn't your game. You are not Pea. And you are not Floyd. When you went to the ropes, you basically sat there and countered....but you ate leather.

6)Don't read your own press. Everybody was saying that the fight turned into the fight they expected. That was good for Tony, and bad for Miguel. Tony is largely a one-trick pony. Miguelhas the more comprehensive skills package. I believe that Quitto pretty much bought in to all the experts opinions. I'm not saying that he relied on that. But he certainly felt that his superior boxing (that earned the early 3:1 odds) was enough to win.

That is the Dios viewpoint. I may become smarter after breakfast. Later.

I agree largely with what you said...

cotto should have tied up more...and he shoudnt have laid on the ropes.

i think cotto tried his best but i think he underrated margarito a little bit...

he went headhunting when he should have been ****ing the body to slow down margarito...if he worked that body more consistantly then he could have got a decision because tony would have been slowed down by the 11th...instead of cotto slowed down in the 11th.

i do agree margarito is a one trick pony for the most part...he has a hell of a chin (best i've ever seen on live tv...not talking about older fighters i watch on tape...but live fights)...and he has endurance to punch 1200+ a fight...

so no matter who he's in against and what the scorecards are he always has a punchers chance and since his chin is so good he can walk forward...

before the fight i expected cotto to keep moving (and tie up when margarito gets too close) and catch margarito coming in and going out (since margarito often comes in and goes out without a jab) but cotto would trade with margarito from time to time and i think it ultimately hurt him in the end.

good fight though.

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

It depends. I don't think so actually.

Name another guy who gives Tony a tougher go than Oscar. A guy at 147/154.

[Kobe Bryant]

Oscar wouldn't respond well to those body shots. But he still has that left hook. And I think he has the power to rock Tony.

[Addition]

Other than Williams, is Oscar Delahoya the toughest fight for Antonio Margarito?

Yes. Apart from those two, I don't see anyone else at 147 to 154 causing him trouble.