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  • #61
    Originally posted by Mozza View Post
    Sugar Shane Mosley.
    SSM is seriously troubled by taller fighters. And Mosley has ****ty defense.

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    • #62
      **** yeh i love Sugar Shane but Margarito would walk all
      over him me thinks...

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      • #63
        Originally posted by hnjtypst View Post
        DiOs u completely read my mind on every point!!! Good Job!! Cotto should of known better then that
        Oh yeah Dios read your mind? haha

        you had that six paragraph methodology ready to present?



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        • #64
          Originally posted by RunW/Knives View Post
          Oh yeah Dios read your mind? haha

          you had that six paragraph methodology ready to present?
          Man you can't lie. That was a good read. I liked the (Don't do this at home part) In my opinion, that was the reason why Cotto got beaten so bad.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by DIOS DOMINICANO View Post
            SSM is seriously troubled by taller fighters. And Mosley has ****ty defense.
            It is hard to tell who is faster these days or who is more durable but I think Shane just has the edge. De La Hoya has a habit of going into the trenches earlier than he needs to and I think that would cost him against Margarito.

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            • #66
              Watching a fight on TV is not always the best way to see what is really going on, partly because it doesn’t give you good depth perception. The fighters often appear to be closer together than they are and you wonder why one fighter doesn’t take advantage of openings that appear to be right there is front of him. But often what appears to be open is not open, and that (IMO) is what you saw last night.

              Hopefully Setanta will replay the Cotto-Margarito fight within a week. If you like boxing, you should watch it. You already know the outcome and you can watch closely to get a good look at what really happened. Cotto is probably the best body puncher in boxing today, but he is much shorter than Margarito and has much shorter arms. Cotto no doubt wanted to go to the body, but it either wasn’t there for him or getting to it would have been too costly. I think Margo’s strategy was to punish Cotto severely when Miguel tried to get inside to work his body and Cotto realized that trying to get in close enough to do that work would have required him to take too many hard shots on the way in.

              If you stand up facing someone as if you’re going to fight, you will find that you are not nearly as close to each other as fighters appear to be on TV. Depending on your size (and your “opponent’s”), you may be as much as a foot farther apart than you thought you would be. That distance is what you have to close in order to make contact, but it’s what might be considered the “kill zone.” It’s the most “expensive” real estate in boxing and you may pay dearly trying to cross it. I think we saw the truth of that last night.

              I don’t think Margo was “lucky” in last night’s fight. He had advantages in height, reach and probably in ring weight after rehydrating. He threw many more punches than Miguel did and his granite chin served him well. He didn’t really do anything that was surprising because he is well known for his work rate and his ability to take a punch (I hope he doesn’t pay too high a price for his ability to take head shots as he ages).

              These two guys put on a great fight. I think Cotto summed it up well when he said, “He did his job better than I did mine.” Both guys wanted to win impressively. Neither one wanted to win a decision, nor did either have any interest in a draw. That’s one of the things that makes Mexican and Puerto Rican fighters great. They come to fight.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by KostyaTszyu44 View Post
                cotto doesnt deserve this criticism, how about we chuck you in with margarito and see what happens? like another poster said, im sure you coulda done better
                "REALITY IS A HARD TRUTH TO LIVE WITH, THATS WHY SOME FANS RATHER LIVE OFF OF PERCEPTION."
                - floyd mayweather

                After all the hyping the Cotto fans and the Boxing news Media did of Miguel Cotto...KNOWing THAT Miguel Cotto had serious flaws the whole time...that he needed to fix

                you are saying cotto doesn't deserve this type of criticism....WTF...
                this isn't really criticism..this is the hard reality that has always been there...

                Cotto has a weak chin, he can not handle pressure, and he leaves himself to open.

                I have been seeing this coming though, but the commentators on HBO were just commenting on the good things they saw. Instead of the little things he does wrong that champions will see and will counter, and will not miss. He still gets hit a lot, and wastes a lot of punches. Sometimes he punches from too far out and leaves gaps where he can be countered or beaten to the punch.

                This was Cotto's first Highly ranked Active young PRIME fighter he fought.
                and His flaws caught up too him.

                This lose would not be so bad if He fans did not have the AUDACITY to
                compare him to mayweather.

                when mayweather was in his 4th weight division when he was in the WW division. and cotto was in his 2nd. When Mayweather has master the art of defense. and when Miguel cotto's best defense is his offense.

                This lost is not a reality check to Miguel cotto , it is a reality check to his fans and HBO.
                Last edited by Horus; 07-27-2008, 05:18 PM.

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                • #68
                  good post nice read

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by KostyaTszyu44 View Post
                    cotto doesnt deserve this criticism, how about we chuck you in with margarito and see what happens? like another poster said, im sure you coulda done better

                    Yeah, only championship-level athletes in that sport should offer opinions and observations about the sport.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Horus View Post
                      After all the hyping the Cotto fans and the Boxing news Media did of Miguel Cotto...KNOWing THAT Miguel Cotto had serious flaws the whole time...that he needed to fix

                      you are saying cotto doesn't deserve this type of criticism....WTF...
                      this isn't really criticism..this is the hard reality that has always been there...

                      Cotto has a weak chin, he can not handle pressure, and he leaves himself to open.

                      I have been seeing this coming though, but the commentators on HBO were just commenting on the good things they saw. Instead of the little things he does wrong that champions will see and will counter, and will not miss. He still gets hit a lot, and wastes a lot of punches. Sometimes he punches from too far out and leaves gaps where he can be countered or beaten to the punch.

                      This was Cotto's first Highly ranked Active young PRIME fighter he fought.
                      and His flaws caught up too him.

                      This lose would not be so bad if He fans did not have the AUDACITY to
                      compare him to mayweather.

                      when mayweather was in his 4th weight division when he was in the WW division. and cotto was in his 2nd. When Mayweather has master the art of defense. and when Miguel cotto's best defense is his offense.

                      This lost is not a reality check to Miguel cotto , it is a reality check to his fans and HBO.
                      Cotto didn't lose that night because of shortcomings in skill. I'm sure when he watches the tape there are things he sees that he would do differently but he displayed expceptional speed, accuracy and defensive work but in the end he used up too much energy too early on and his punches had not done enough to slow his opponent.

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