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  • #11
    Originally posted by Clegg View Post
    Why?

    I may be wrong as I have only watched each fight once, but I don't remember Mayweather hurting Baldomir or Williams hurting Margarito.

    People like Calzaghe and Malignaggi manage to win fights without much power, and Mayweather is a better fighter than either of them, so I don't think that him not punching as hard as Cotto is that important.
    Because you have to land something big or they will walk through your punches. Its only with the consistant pressure fighters. Margarito is a consistant pressure fight and Pavlik is as well. He didn't do it against Williams becuase he did not pressure Williams and waited until the end of the fight to start fighting. Thats something that he himself admitted.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by slicksouthpaw16 View Post
      I just look at it like this, if Margarito didn't care about Cotto's power, then why would he care about Mayweather's? When you have a pressure fighter that is relentess like that, then you will need to land something big to get his respect and Mayweather does not have a punch at welterweight.

      For the person that told me to look at what happened in first 6 rounds with Cotto, Margarito is a slow starter and he was just warming up by 6th round. Hes one of those fighters that gets stronger as the rounds went on. At first, i thought that Margarito was just a wide open ****er, but he was getting full leverage on those power punches and was using his reach when he had Cotto on the ropes to land his power punches. If Mayweather struggled with Oscar's reach, then he would have problems with Margarito's IMO. Even years back before this fight, i have always new that he would give Mayweather hell. I'm not saying he would beat Floyd, but he is very dangerous and would be one of Floyd's harder fights.
      He doesn't have to care about Mayweather's power and I don't think Mayweather needs to get Margarito's respect because Mayweather is more than skilled enough to outbox Margarito for 12 whole rounds.

      I think if Cotto managed to land so cleanly on Margarito, Mayweather's fast and accurate punches will be able to catch Margarito and I don't really think Margarito can penetrate Mayweather's defense.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by Silencers View Post
        He doesn't have to care about Mayweather's power and I don't think Mayweather needs to get Margarito's respect because Mayweather is more than skilled enough to outbox Margarito for 12 whole rounds.

        I think if Cotto managed to land so cleanly on Margarito, Mayweather's fast and accurate punches will be able to catch Margarito and I don't really think Margarito can penetrate Mayweather's defense.
        Cotto punches harder than Mayweather. If a consistant pressure fighter has a fighter who can't punch, then they walk through their punches and walk them down. However, if they land something big to get their respect then they will think twice about coming in. Just look at Mayweather/Castillio or Dawson against Adamek. Do you think that Adamek would have showed the respect he showed Dawson if Dawson didn't have the power to back him off?

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        • #14
          Originally posted by Silencers View Post
          He doesn't have to care about Mayweather's power and I don't think Mayweather needs to get Margarito's respect because Mayweather is more than skilled enough to outbox Margarito for 12 whole rounds.

          I think if Cotto managed to land so cleanly on Margarito, Mayweather's fast and accurate punches will be able to catch Margarito and I don't really think Margarito can penetrate Mayweather's defense.
          Lol, you really forget what makes Floyd or what he is about or how to win a fight.

          Floyd will be there to get hit. Theres only so much you can do with pot shotting. Floyd for the first time will have to fight toe to toe, ok toe to toe sometimes and RUN, most of the time.

          That shoulder role, dont mean **** when you have someone aiming at your body. Floyds hands can't keep up with Margarito, but then acourse thats if you belive he has those hand problems.

          Point is Margarito looks beatable but its another thing to actually do it.

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          • #15
            Floyd would put his track shoes on, run all night long and win a UD over Margarito.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by slicksouthpaw16 View Post
              Cotto punches harder than Mayweather. If a consistant pressure fighter has a fighter who can't punch, then they walk through their punches and walk them down. However, if they land something big to get their respect then they will think twice about coming in. Just look at Mayweather/Castillio or Dawson against Adamek. Do you think that Adamek would have showed the respect he showed Dawson if Dawson didn't have the power to back him off?
              Mayweather isn't that type of a fighter, he doesn't care if he gets his opponents respect because he knows he's skilled enough to outbox his opponents, he doesn't rely on his power, Mayweather is fast enough to evade Margarito's blows and come back with his own, he'll fight Margarito with pretty much the same strategy he used against Baldomir.

              Which was to use his speed, pot shot and move and not let Margarito get his feet set, he's faster than Cotto and probably more accurate with his shots.

              Originally posted by ferocity View Post
              Lol, you really forget what makes Floyd or what he is about or how to win a fight.

              Floyd will be there to get hit. Theres only so much you can do with pot shotting. Floyd for the first time will have to fight toe to toe, ok toe to toe sometimes and RUN, most of the time.

              That shoulder role, dont mean **** when you have someone aiming at your body. Floyds hands can't keep up with Margarito, but then acourse thats if you belive he has those hand problems.

              Point is Margarito looks beatable but its another thing to actually do it.
              I remember the Baldomir fight where Mayweather was moving and not getting his, not letting Baldomir get his feet set to punch, he can do the same to Margarito.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by Silencers View Post
                Mayweather isn't that type of a fighter, he doesn't care if he gets his opponents respect because he knows he's skilled enough to outbox his opponents, he doesn't rely on his power, Mayweather is fast enough to evade Margarito's blows and come back with his own, he'll fight Margarito with pretty much the same strategy he used against Baldomir.

                Which was to use his speed, pot shot and move and not let Margarito get his feet set, he's faster than Cotto and probably more accurate with his shots.



                I remember the Baldomir fight where Mayweather was moving and not getting his, not letting Baldomir get his feet set to punch, he can do the same to Margarito.

                Don't compar Baldomier to Margarito. Two differnt fighters. Remember the height, punch, active, technique, differnces. The only thing they share alike is they both have showed great chins. Even Baldomier said, "i will not fight Margarito." after he beat Judah and Gatti. Theres a reason to this and Cotto knows why.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by Silencers View Post
                  Mayweather isn't that type of a fighter, he doesn't care if he gets his opponents respect because he knows he's skilled enough to outbox his opponents, he doesn't rely on his power, Mayweather is fast enough to evade Margarito's blows and come back with his own, he'll fight Margarito with pretty much the same strategy he used against Baldomir.

                  Which was to use his speed, pot shot and move and not let Margarito get his feet set, he's faster than Cotto and probably more accurate with his shots.

                  Castillio was the only fighter to bring that consistant educated pressure on Mayweather and his style resume's Margarito. Where Mayweater would have more probleme with Margarito is that fact that he is a harder puncher than Castillio, has a far better workrate and is more consistant. There were times that Castillio stood in the center of the ring with Mayweather and tried to out box him. The majority of Cotto/Margarito was fought along the ropes. If Cotto doesn't have the power to keep from being backed up, then how would Mayweather keep from being bullied as well? Mayweather has lost use of his jab in recent fights and he gets hit a lot more. He also would have a hard time countering effectively off of the ropes when Margarito keeps his distance and doesn't smoother his punches, getting full leverage on those shots.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by ferocity View Post
                    Don't compar Baldomier to Margarito. Two differnt fighters. Remember the height, punch, active, technique, differnces. The only thing they share alike is they both have showed great chins. Even Baldomier said, "i will not fight Margarito." after he beat Judah and Gatti. Theres a reason to this and Cotto knows why.
                    I'm not comparing Baldomir to Margarito, I'm just bringing up an example of how Mayweather could deal with a slow moving guy like Margarito.

                    Margarito still doesn't use his height to his advantage, that won't change against Mayweather, his activity level would just leave more openings for Mayweather to counter, Margarito is a little faster than Baldomir but it isn't that big a difference, his feet are pretty slow, Mayweather would take advantage of that.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by Silencers View Post
                      I'm not comparing Baldomir to Margarito, I'm just bringing up an example of how Mayweather could deal with a slow moving guy like Margarito.
                      Margarito is a pressure fighter that is far buiser, a harder puncher, naturally bigger and is more skilled than Boldimir. Boldimir is a technical boxer. Its just a completely different quality of fighters and different level of class. An irrelevant comparison IMO.

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