p4p strongest puncher in boxing IMO. a rematch with barerra is what he would've needed. naseem was quite the boxing genius and he would've figured a way to beat barrera had they fought again.
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The Greatness of Naseem Hamed
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Originally posted by Moon View PostGreatness includes avenging losses. When a truly great fighter is dealt a humbling loss, he doesn't disappear from the fight scene like Hamed did. Hamed's own actions revealed his mental softness and he lost any chance of ever being considered Great.
but with your theory oscar de la hoya , roy jones , bernard hopkins , felix trinidad , shane mosley , and juan manuel marquez are not great fighters right?
did juan manuel marquez avenge his loss to norwood? john?
did bernard avenge his loss to taylor? jones?
did roy avenge his loss to tarver? glengoffe?
did shane mosley avenge his loss to winky? vernon?
did trinidad avenge his loss to hopkins? winky?
did oscar avenge his losses to mosley? trinidad? hopkins? he didn't even avenge his win to sturm!
yes those guys continued fighting after their losses and naseem retired after 1 fight after he lost.
but hamed was no longer in top shape. his last fight he won but you can tell he wasn't the same hamed anymore.
why should he continue fighting if he doesn't think he's that good anymore?Last edited by Left Hook Tua; 07-24-2008, 11:30 PM.
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RING ****zine's Top 100 Greatest Punchers of All Time
In 2003, the writers of Ring ****zine published a ranking of the 100 greatest punchers of all-time. Not unlike an all-time pound-for-pound ranking, this list compares fighters across different weight categories and different eras. As such, it's entirely open for debate ...
1. Joe Louis
2. Sam Langford
3. Jimmy Wilde
4. Archie Moore
5. Sandy Saddler
6. Stanley Ketchell
7. Jack Dempsey
8. Bob Fitzsimmons
9. George Foreman
10. Earnie Shavers
11. Sugar Ray Robinson
12. Ruben Olivares
13. Wilfredo Gomez
14. Rocky Marciano
15. Sonny Liston
16. Mike Tyson
17. Bob Foster
18. Thomas Hearns
19. Khaosai Galaxy
20. Alexis Arguello
21. Carlos Zarate
22. Max Baer
23. Rocky Graziano
24. Matthew Saad Muhammad
25. Julian Jackson
26. Danny Lopez
27. Gerald McClellan
28. Roberto Duran
29. Rodrigo Valdez
30. Felix Trinidad
31. Pipino Cuevas
32. Jim Jefferies
33. Lennox Lewis
34. Bennie Briscoe
35. Marvin Hagler
36. Edwin Rosario
37. Tommy Ryan
38. John Mugabi
39. Joe Frazier
40. Carlos Monzon
41. Tony Zale
42. Michael Spinks
43. Joe Gans
44. Elmer Ray
45. George Godfrey
46. Naseem Hamed
47. Alfonso Zamora
48. David Tua
49. Cleveland Williams
50. Julio Cesar Chavez
51. Tiger Jack Fox
52. Joe Walcott
53. Gerry Cooney
54. Al (Bummy) Davis
55. Max Schmeling
56. Florentino Fernandez
57. Henry Armstrong
58. Bob Satterfield
59. Al Hostak
60. Jesus Pimentel
61. Eugene (Cyclone) Hart
62. Lew Jenkins
63. Harry Wills
64. Tom Sharkey
65. Terry McGovern
66. Jersey Joe Walcott
67. Kostya Tszyu
68. Leotis Martin
69. Buddy Baer
70. Donovan (Razor) Ruddock
71. Jose Luis Ramirez
72. Tommy Gomez
73. Jose Napoles
74. Kid McCoy
75. Antonio Esparragoza
76. Ricardo Moreno
77. Evander Holyfield
78. Ike Williams
79. Luis Firpo
80. Ricardo Lopez
81. Humberto Gonzalez
82. Bobby Chacon
83. Jock McAvoy
84. Eduardo Lausse
85. Eder Jofre
86. Charley Burley
87. Mike McCallum
88. Salvador Sanchez
89. Roy Jones Jr.
90. Rodolfo Gonzalez
91. Nigel Benn
92. (Irish) Bob Murphy
93. Paul Berlenbach
94. Battling Torres
95. Chalky Wright
96. George (K.O.) Chaney
97. Andy Ganigan
98. Fred Fulton
99. Ingemar Johansson
100. Charley White
Source: Ring ****zine (2003)
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Originally posted by mt102879 View PostI'm not sure I've ever had any greater satisfaction then watching Barrera take him apart...except maybe when that fan through a beer on him before the fight.
maybe in the future after marquez retires i'll learn to love juan manuel......... nah...... probably not!
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I regard Hamed below Barrera, Morales or even JMM. He's not a hoax but he ain't all that either compared to those three.
He's better than Khoasai Galaxy for sure. I keep seeing the name of that tomato can collector... geez.
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Hamed was overrated and touted by his biggest fans to the extreme.....it was very annoying being an objective fan during his little "reign".....Kelley...ok....McCullough....alright. Don't let his other opponents' records fool you....they weren't all that. Was Augie Sanchez a true force to be reckoned with? I don't think so...
I see him as a flash in the pan.
He was simply an unorthodox power puncher who was in the right place at the right time....that is...until he met Barrera and got ruined.
He had a bad attitude and a big mouth....and he disrespected Boxing by saying he was the greatest Feather in history.
Yeah....he can be listed as a Top 100 P4P puncher....but the reality is that he can't smell The Top 10 great Featherweights and can't see The Top 100 ATGs with a telescope.....
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