The Greatness of Naseem Hamed

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  • Clegg
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    #101
    Originally posted by SnoopySmurf
    Barrera was his first REAL test.

    And he failed. He lost every round.
    Well done for proving that you didn't even watch the fight, or that you're so biased that you cannot recognise what's right in front of your eyes.

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    • Clegg
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      #102
      Originally posted by cuauhtemoc1496
      If anything he brought it on his own, claiming the fight for Islam and coming short of saying it was Islam defeating Christianity. He made it a point to fight on one of the holiest of Christian weeks and made a mokery of things when he would pray and chant Allah-Akbar over and over before the fight.

      I thought he was decent but he was a clown as a person, disrespected an entire religion and paid for it by recieving an old fashion Mexican ass whoopin.
      What is wrong with fighting at a certain time of year? There is nothing wrong with a ****** fighting during a Christian holy week.

      I remember George Foreman praying straight after beating Moorer. I am not at all religious but that was a great moment, did you have a problem with that too? Who cares if a guy prays?

      Can you tell me what he said that you saw as disrespectful to Christianity?

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      • ROSS CALIFORNIA
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        #103
        Originally posted by Left Hook Tua
        Someone posted a funny Hamed video earlier this morning and I got annoyed with a few of the posts on that thread. I saw Naseem called everything from JOKE to BUM to HEARTLESS. I wanted to do one of my GREATNESS series threads on Naseem but I wasn't really in the mood this morning......but I'm in the mood now.

        NASEEM HAMED 36-1-0 (31 KO's)

        WBO Featherweight Champion 1995-2000
        IBF Featherweight Champion 1997
        WBC Featherweight Champion 1999-2000

        Please note that Hamed beat every beltholder at 126 in his time , the only reason he didn't hold all those belt and wasn't the undisputed , unified champion was due to WBC/WBA/IBF/WBO politics.

        Let's take a closer look at this BUM'S resume. Here's a list of his notable wins , his opponents , their record at the time they fought Naseem and all the titles they held.

        TKO11 Medina (52-7-0) IBF/WBC/WBO126 Champion
        TKO7 Vazquez (50-7-2) WBA118 , WBA122 , WBA126 Champion
        KO4 Kelley (47-1-2) WBC/WBU126 Champion
        UD12 Soto (54-7-2) WBC126 Champion
        TKO8 Johnson (44-2-2) IBF126 Champion
        TKO4 Sanchez (26-1-0)
        TKO11 Ingle (21-0-0) IBF126 Champion
        UD12 McCullough (22-1-0) WBC118 Champion
        TKO2 Molina (27-0-0)
        TKO8 Robinson (21-9-1) WBO126 Champion
        KO2 Liendo (42-4-3)
        TKO6 Cruz (44-6-6)
        KO2 Perez (37-12-2) IBF115 Champion
        KO4 Castro (43-17-3)
        TKO4 Bungu (37-2-0) IBF122 Champion

        Not bad for a HEARTLESS JOKE of a fighter. But then again he's still a BUM because his ONE loss was to Hall Of Famer Marco Antonio Barrera right? Because not too many guys lost to Marco......
        I completely agree with you once again. I was disappointed he allowed the loss to take him out of boxing, but he definitely wasn't a bum. One of my favorite fighters ever, highly entertaining.

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        • Clegg
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          #104
          Originally posted by Bogler
          how can anyone say hamed was on the decline when he fought barrera. he's only 27 that time for christ's sake. is that the new past his prime age now? it was 30 for morales as pachaters would like to say always and that's already a low number, ppl are fighting till 34 and winning great fights.
          Mike Tyson, Aaron Pryor, Wilfredo Benitez etc.

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          • SnoopySmurf
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            #105
            Originally posted by Clegg
            Well done for proving that you didn't even watch the fight, or that you're so biased that you cannot recognise what's right in front of your eyes.
            I've watched that fight about 20 times. At best, he had round 7. But it was just barely.

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            • Bogler
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              #106
              Originally posted by Clegg
              Mike Tyson, Aaron Pryor, Wilfredo Benitez etc.
              losing doesnt mean on the decline. pacman lost early in his career, was he on the decline? these fighters you mentioned fought on till way past hamed's retirement age, even after losing fights. the only problem i had w/ the previous post was saying hamed was on the decline thats why he lost to barrera. maybe he could have gotten a rematch and redeemed himself and prove to us that he was still prime. but he had no heart and he didnt.

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              • Clegg
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                #107
                Originally posted by Bogler
                losing doesnt mean on the decline. pacman lost early in his career, was he on the decline? these fighters you mentioned fought on till way past hamed's retirement age, even after losing fights. the only problem i had w/ the previous post was saying hamed was on the decline thats why he lost to barrera. maybe he could have gotten a rematch and redeemed himself and prove to us that he was still prime. but he had no heart and he didnt.
                Where did I say that losing=on the decline? I listed boxers who were on the decline at a young age. Yes, Hamed should be criticised for not trying to avenge his defeat, and for other things as well, but what I'm saying is that it is possible to decline at age 27 or even earlier if you lose your hunger and do not train as well as you should.

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                • Clegg
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                  #108
                  Originally posted by SnoopySmurf
                  I've watched that fight about 20 times. At best, he had round 7. But it was just barely.
                  11-1 at best? Even people who hate Hamed would disagree with that.

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                  • Bogler
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                    #109
                    Originally posted by Clegg
                    Where did I say that losing=on the decline? I listed boxers who were on the decline at a young age. Yes, Hamed should be criticised for not trying to avenge his defeat, and for other things as well, but what I'm saying is that it is possible to decline at age 27 or even earlier if you lose your hunger and do not train as well as you should.
                    i was reacting to a different post earlier then you replied to me.

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                    • Clegg
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                      #110
                      Originally posted by Bogler
                      i was reacting to a different post earlier then you replied to me.
                      I am not sure what one you mean, can you quote it please?

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