Bernard Hopkins is a phenom

[Dynamite Kid]

So the McCallum fights are debatable, but the Griffin fights were clear losses right?

the first one was not IMO Griffin ring generaled him for my money and it if was slightly closer it was cause Griffin got hit with a right hand when he was off balance and touched down

[Johnny Rebel]

So the McCallum fights are debatable, but the Griffin fights were clear losses right?

I cant stand James Toney but I thought his fights with Griffin could've gone either way. The first was really close (I thought Toney won) and the second fight I thought Toney won, but Griffin was still giving him problems.

[Dynamite Kid]

Griffin was the one throwing punches in the first fight Toney was not doing anything

[Johnny Rebel]

I think a Prime Calzaghe beats a Prime Hopkins by a similar margain.

Calzaghe would beat Hop at any point IMO. People like to use the age excuse even though Calzaghe is also old. Eubank was "old and past his prime at 31" when JC beat him, but when Joe wins at 36 he's a "prime" fighter. Joe has lost plenty of speed and much of his power due to numerous injuries.

[HomeBoys]

Terrible... is a hypocrite.

[Silencers]

I thought Toney won both fights against Griffin with the first fight being the closer of the two.

The first two McCallum fights were very close, I scored the first a draw, the second Toney by a very small margin.

Toney should have lost the Tiberi fight though.