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  • JOM'S
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    #11
    Originally posted by Left2body
    Trinidad did it with in 1 1/2 years. He beat Oscar at WW, went and beat Reid, Vargs and Joppy who all had belts from WW-MW.

    Not only belt holders but the best fighters at the divisions. DLH and Vargas at the time. Joppy was just a MW belt holder not the best (Hopkins was).
    just like what i mentioned in my previous post, the feat can be achieved by a good to great fighter if one tried to accomplish it... but Trinidad still did over a period of one year...

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    • JAB5239
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      #12
      [QUOTE=gopi11;3798493]First, let me set things straight.

      I'm not that old to recall if this has ever happened before, and I would love to hear from the oldtimers about this scenario. This once in a lifetime chance for a piece of boxing history is rarer than the Haley's comet, were we get to see every 75-76 years, specially at this day and age were elite boxers gets to fight about 2 to 3 times a year, max.

      We all know that current P4P king Manny Pacquiao has just won two belts from two different weight divisions (super featherweight and lightweight) this year. He has a chance to win a third one if he opts to fight any of these four champions this year, WBC's current jr. welterweight champ Tim Bradley, WBA's Andreas Kotelnik, IBF's Paulie Malinaggi or WBO's current jr. welterweight king Kendall Holt. WOW! Three championship belts from three different weight classes in one calendar year? That's unheard of!

      Henry Armstrong won the Featherweight, welterweight and lightweight titles in a 13 month period during 1937 and 1938 I think. Im a big fan of Manny, but what rmstrong accomplished is MUCH more impressive considering there were only 8 divisions with one 1 champion in each at that time. He ALMOST grabbed the middleweight title as well a short time later. This was an era when you could keep your title in each division as long as you could defend it also. So, Armstrong was the champion of almost half the divisions in boxing at the time. I think what Pac is doing is great. But for it to be compareable he would have to unify each title in these divisions. And with todays bull**** organizations and politics, that will never happen.

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      • Left2body
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        #13
        Originally posted by JOM'S
        just like what i mentioned in my previous post, the feat can be achieved by a good to great fighter if one tried to accomplish it... but Trinidad still did over a period of one year...
        Yeah, Pac could do it but if I was him I would fight Hatton before DLH. Hatton is seriously popular in the UK and Pac might make just as much against Hatton as he would against DLH. Also the easier fight with smoother transition in weight.

        With those 2 wins Pac an be the next Golden Boy. He would be seriously seriously paid.

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        • gopi11
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          #14
          [QUOTE=JAB5239;3798860]
          Originally posted by gopi11
          First, let me set things straight.

          I'm not that old to recall if this has ever happened before, and I would love to hear from the oldtimers about this scenario. This once in a lifetime chance for a piece of boxing history is rarer than the Haley's comet, were we get to see every 75-76 years, specially at this day and age were elite boxers gets to fight about 2 to 3 times a year, max.

          We all know that current P4P king Manny Pacquiao has just won two belts from two different weight divisions (super featherweight and lightweight) this year. He has a chance to win a third one if he opts to fight any of these four champions this year, WBC's current jr. welterweight champ Tim Bradley, WBA's Andreas Kotelnik, IBF's Paulie Malinaggi or WBO's current jr. welterweight king Kendall Holt. WOW! Three championship belts from three different weight classes in one calendar year? That's unheard of!

          Henry Armstrong won the Featherweight, welterweight and lightweight titles in a 13 month period during 1937 and 1938 I think. Im a big fan of Manny, but what rmstrong accomplished is MUCH more impressive considering there were only 8 divisions with one 1 champion in each at that time. He ALMOST grabbed the middleweight title as well a short time later. This was an era when you could keep your title in each division as long as you could defend it also. So, Armstrong was the champion of almost half the divisions in boxing at the time. I think what Pac is doing is great. But for it to be compareable he would have to unify each title in these divisions. And with todays bull**** organizations and politics, that will never happen.



          Thnx for the heads up!

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          • IMDAZED
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            #15
            As a fan of the sport, I'm a little wary of fighters who cherry pick their way through divisions. It would've been easy to assume there was no way Antonio Tarver could beat Roy Jones because, after all, Jones had just shut out a heavyweight titlist. But he did. And trust me, back then a lot of people snickered at the thought.

            The bottom line is, Manny Pacquiao needs to fight the best in HIS division. Not Oscar, not Hatton (two guys on the wrong side of their careers) but maybe the winner of Guzman-Campbell? I mean, aren't many of you the same people who were pissed Floyd was fighting guys around his division and not the best in it? No more double-standards. I'm not prepared to call anyone an all-time great just because they win "titles."

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