Kostya Tszyu vs Floyd Mayweather at 140

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  • IMDAZED
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    #121
    Originally posted by wmute
    You are making sense, I am following you, but I think that because when Zoo gets in, Floyd won't even have to worry about that right hand, Zoo is going to get nailed with harder stuff. If he tries to box, PBF will be more alert and load less on his shots. Where will Zoo feel more comfortable? eating hard leather or being potshotted? I think being potshotted.

    I am not saying this fight will happen on the outside only, but I don't see them getting in and staying in the pocket for too long either. When Mayweather starts landind those bodyshots he was landing on Hatton on the inside, any fighter with another route at hand will try to take it. Because of this, it would be up to Floyd to make it a phone booth fight at that point, and he is usually not interested in doing that.
    Yeah but if Tszyu isn't liking the body shots, he's gonna back up and try to box - not back up and try to come forward. And Floyd will beat the snot out of him from there.

    I just don't think Tszyu has anything for Floyd at 140. Oscar-Floyd at 140...now that would've been a fight.

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    • wmute
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      #122
      Originally posted by IMDAZED
      Yeah but if Tszyu isn't liking the body shots, he's gonna back up and try to box - not back up and try to come forward. And Floyd will beat the snot out of him from there.

      I just don't think Tszyu has anything for Floyd at 140. Oscar-Floyd at 140...now that would've been a fight.
      I pretty much agree, except I would substitute the bold with "pot shot him till the final bell from there". A less painful kind of death than staying in the phone booth...

      Why would you have liked to see Oscar-Floyd at 140? IMO it would be interesting mostly because Oscar is like 5'11" and bigger than Floyd and unlike their actual fight he still had stamina back then. I am not a fan of fights made interesting by size disadvantage. 90% of the times they are not exciting.

      The fights I would have wanted to see would have been Duran-Mayweather, Pryor-Mayweather and Whitaker-Mayweather, Chavez-Mayweather. You know guys of similar size (and similar skills).

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      • wmute
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        #123
        Also, one question. How did you pick Floyd to fight on the inside against Hatton? Did you see him sparring? I mean I knew there would be a lot of close range going on in there, but I couldnt imagine him being so comfortable wrestling.

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        • MayweatherJr.
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          #124
          Floyd by UD.

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          • El Dominicano
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            #125
            Floyd by K.O. His reach and accuracy will be too much for Tszyu. Floyd will be comfortable in the outside throwing that right straight when ever he feels like it. Remember, Mayweather had a hard time with Hatton because Hatton holds. Tszyu isn't a holder.

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            • MikeBrew328
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              #126
              Originally posted by poeticlsykuac
              A lot more power? Are you serious? Tszyu my very well be the hardest puncher in 140 ever which includes JCC, Pryor, DLH, etc. Mayweather has never been hit with what Tszyu has to offer. Tszyu was an extremely special fighter, who broke down fighters with hard blows. He had one punch power, ask Judah. PBF left that division in a very short period of time, and I am sure that Roger had a bit to do with that. Roger fought him, and I believe that their styles are similar seeing as how he trained him. A lot of those defensive tactics were used against Tszyu. Tszyu's offensive arsenal was potent.

              Mayweather would have to out muscle him in my opinion and I don't know that he could do that. Hatton and Phillips both were rugged fighters, they were strong inside fighters, I don't mean they could fight on the inside I mean they would also use their strength to tire you out. Mayweather wouldn't do this, he isn't as strong as either of them.

              I think Mayweather would/could win a decision. I also think Tszyu could change any fight with one punch in his prime. The fact is nobody wanted a piece of Tszyu in his prime and there is a reason for it.

              Tszyu hit ****ing hard, dude had stones for hands. Everyone he hit in his prime got hurt. Even Phillips and Hatton had a moment or two hurt. Against Phillips he showed up arrogant and out of shape, Hatton he was just old and he didn't have it in he tank.

              Be a little respectful of an all time great.
              LOL. When did "being respectful" come to choosing who would win in a fight?

              I DID NOT say that Mayweather had a lot more power than Kosta. I said that he was a bigger puncher at 140 than 147, because 147 is way above his natural weight class.

              Maybe Tszyu did hit like a hammer. Floyd wouldn't get hit by any of that ****. Show me when Floyd's been clearly hurt by a hard right hand. It's RARELY happened, you need a very great left sided attack to beat Floyd.

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              • Dirk Diggler UK
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                #127
                Originally posted by letsgobrady
                you see a low blow because your hatton fan and the reason you make tszyu out to be 1 of the greatest fighters ever is because your a hatton fan
                No I saw a low blow because thats what happened and thats what they showed on the reply dumbass.

                Kostya Tszyu is one of the greatest 140 fighters of all time. Most people would agree with that. Your hate for Ricky Hatton (thats ALL you post about) doesnt allow you to be objective

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                • Rompeboca
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                  #128
                  Originally posted by WLAD OWNS
                  PRIME for PRIME: Tszyu vs Mayweather at 140

                  Who Wins???
                  Cotto would beat both!!!

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                  • Left Hook Tua
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                    #129
                    Originally posted by Rompeboca
                    Cotto would beat both!!!
                    cotto would probably beat neither........ prime for prime.

                    cotto could beat the older tszyu and maybe floyd a few years from now if they fought while floyd was rusty or lost a step.

                    prime for prime cotto loses against both fighters , especially at 140.

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                      #130
                      Originally posted by IMDAZED
                      Yeah but if Tszyu isn't liking the body shots, he's gonna back up and try to box - not back up and try to come forward. And Floyd will beat the snot out of him from there.

                      I just don't think Tszyu has anything for Floyd at 140. Oscar-Floyd at 140...now that would've been a fight.
                      What the **** did Floyd do worth a damn at 140? Beat a shot to bits Gatti? Tszyu reigned supreme at 140 for many years.

                      At 147, Kostya would struggle but 140 was his division. Mayweather didnt even try to get in his way while he was there.

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