Calzaghe and his bums

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  • SHB
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    #21
    Originally posted by Live Dog
    Call me what you will, but the man who wrote the article is a boxing writer for ESPN. I'm thinking he knows more than you or I.
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    Last edited by SHB; 07-15-2008, 09:14 AM.

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    • PrettyBoyFloyd7
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      #22
      Originally posted by live Dog
      http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/box...ric&id=3485164

      only Recently Has Joe Calzaghe, Right, Gone After The Best Possible Opponents. For Nearly The Whole Decade Before That, However, Calzaghe Was Content To Defend His Alphabet Belt Against Bum Of The Month Club Types (though Calzaghe's Un-joe-louis-like Schedule Made It More Of A "bum Every Six Months Club").
      I Couldnthave Said It Any Better

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      • SHB
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        #23
        Originally posted by SHB
        I disagree. I think he knows less than my 6 year old lad.
        Actually, having read the article, I do the writer a disservice. It's a decent article although anyone who think Calzaghe has fought 46 bums is an idiot.

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        • Johnny Rebel
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          #24
          Why do writers and posters keep failing to mention the big name, top SMW fighters that JC should have fought or "ducked"? JC fought all the top SMW's during his reign, except Ottke.

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          • abadger
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            #25
            Originally posted by Johnny Rebel
            Why do writers and posters keep failing to mention the big name, top SMW fighters that JC should have fought or "ducked"? JC fought all the top SMW's during his reign, except Ottke.
            He ducked Ottke!

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            • sparked_85
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              #26
              Joe should fight Jones then fight Ottke.

              lol.

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              • abadger
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                #27
                Originally posted by PrettyBoyFloyd7
                I Couldnthave Said It Any Better
                This, we realise.

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                • Kris Silver
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Live Dog
                  You progressing well to....wait that doesn't make sense....closes book....
                  LOL, I respect you for that. Everyone's a fan of someone by the way, were all human. So the comment doesn't really mean much.

                  I accept my grammar isn't always great and I use too many comma's lol, but it's often just from rushing and not being bothered more than anything.

                  That guys written a professional article for the public however, and it's just not of an objective, balanced and high quality.

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                  • Drunk Punch
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                    #29
                    The two things you can level at Calzaghe is that he didn't fight the best opponents in America and that he was overprotected by Frank Warren. We can debate whether that's because Jones ducked him or vice-versa, but generally I would say those are fair criticisms.

                    So, that said.... it doesn't mean all of his opponents were bums and it certainly doesn't mean Calzaghe would have lost to Jones or Toney or Hopkins. We will never know. I read an article only recently where Jones said he had the opportunity to fight Calazghe back in the late 1990s but he didn't take it. It was also said that RJJ avoided Benn and Collins during his 'unbeatable' reign (1994-2004). See below.

                    Trainer Freddie Roach, who has worked with such elite modern fighters as Hopkins and Manny Pacquiao, is one observer who doesn't believe a Jones win over Calzaghe is enough to elevate him above his peers, largely because Jones was reluctant to face some of his most dangerous foes during his prime.

                    "I always felt he ducked some fighters out there," Roach told ESPN.com. "When he was at super middleweight, both Frankie Liles and Steve Collins, two fighters I trained who had world titles -- they both wanted to fight him but he wouldn't fight either of them. I mean, probably Roy Jones would have beaten them, but Frankie did beat him twice in the amateurs, so you never know. At super middleweight, Jones never tried to unify the titles, and that really made me not such a Roy Jones fan, to be honest. To be known as the best, I think you need to beat everybody."

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                    • THE REED
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by R I Z O
                      Do you sometimes get the feeling you could take a Calzaghe straight left with no problem?
                      lmfao.........

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