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    Sugar-Will O'-Hurricane
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    #31
    Originally posted by GodOfWarII
    Whats joe calzfraud done to get second place and ranked higher than miguel cotto? Hold a belt for over 10 years because the majority of the people he handpicked were bums?
    Sometimes, it's not who you do it against. It's what you do.

    10 years, PLUS, undefeated and at an elite level, is impressive.

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    • slicksouthpaw16
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      #32
      Originally posted by Ryno113
      Same thing that Hopkins did.... held it for years without fighting anyone. Then when they both manned up and fought people they won.
      I must say that Hopkins made it to the list by being the undisputed middleweight champion and beating Felix Trinidad, who was unbeaten and on the pound for pound list. His win over De La Hoya and Tarver also sky rocked him up the list as well and they were all on the pound for pound list at the time that he beat them. Hopkins ha beaten the more pound for pound quality opponents. Oh and i have Calzaghe at number 2 on my list, i just though I'd point that out. Joe has earned his spot by having that long of a title reign, unifying the titles and remaining undefeated, which is very impressive.

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      • BMWM3P
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        #33
        Cotto should be 3, Hopkins doesn't belong in the top ten and Israel Vazquez is way to high.

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        • El Jesus
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          #34
          Originally posted by BMWM3P
          Cotto should be 3, Hopkins doesn't belong in the top ten and Israel Vazquez is way to high.
          Considering Vasquez went to war 3 times with Marquez who was p4p for years, he deserves where he is, especially since he wasnt expected to win any of those fights. Cotto beating margarito would justify him being higher than Varquez.
          Last edited by El Jesus; 07-15-2008, 07:13 AM.

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          • El Jesus
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            #35
            Originally posted by Ryno113
            Same thing that Hopkins did.... held it for years without fighting anyone. Then when they both manned up and fought people they won.
            I dont think hopkins had to "man up" for anything, what stops hopkins is his issues with negotiations and his illustrious ego.

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            • El Jesus
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              #36
              Originally posted by slicksouthpaw16
              Why is Rafael Marquez on the list? He has lost two straight. I would also put Cotto above Vasquez simply becuase Cotto is unbeaten and Vasquez lost last year.
              The thing is, he lost 2 straight, but it was against the same guy who had been in the p4p list already (to my knowledge) Cotto is unbeaten, but how many guys did he face that were p4p already, i think thats exclusively why Vasquez is ranked higher.

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              • pins0099
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                #37
                Originally posted by RunW/Knives
                1. Pac Man
                2. JMM
                3. Pavlik
                4. Cotto
                5. Vasquez
                6. Wright
                7. Rafa Marquez
                8. Guzman
                9. Hopkins
                10. Nonito Doniare
                So Calz doesn't go one there even tho he beat Hops.

                I thinks you'll find that's called listing your favourite fighters, not a p4p top 10!

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                • Ras44
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                  #38
                  Chose Whack because of Hopkins.
                  Other than that, I would have chose "I'd switch some things".

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                  • MELLY-MEL...
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by RunW/Knives
                    Nonito stopped Darchinyan and Maldonado consecutively.

                    Did you watch him? He's amazing.
                    very, very true. vastly underrated

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                    • DIOS DOMINICANO
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by C-Drone
                      1. Manny Macquiao
                      2. Joe Calzaghe
                      3. Juan Manuel Marquez
                      4. Bernard Hopkins
                      5. Israel Vazquez
                      6. Miguel Cotto
                      7. Kelly Pavlik
                      8. Cristian Mijares
                      9. Rafael Marquez
                      10. Ivan Calderon

                      What do you guys think?

                      Vote. Discuss.
                      If Winky Wright's only loss (recently) was a close decision to a highly rated p4p guy well above Winky's best weights, how did WW fall so far off the list?

                      That troubles me.

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