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  • Live Dog
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    #101
    Originally posted by BMWM3P
    Cotto, no doubt. We obviously now who you're going to pick.
    True, but I have reasons why I think Mayweather would win. Do you have the same for Cotto?

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    • damian5000
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      #102
      The only thing that would concern me is Floyd's inactivity. I think Floyd would take Cotto in convincing fashion, but there's just no telling after a fighter's been out of the game for a year or more.

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        #103
        1. Mayweather has never fought someone who hits are hard as Cotto.

        2. Cotto has good enough foot work to keep up with Floyd and cut off the ring.

        3. Cotto is just as experienced as Floyd in terms of time spent in the ring.

        4. Mayweather couldn't keep his shell up all night with someone smashing on him like Cotto would.

        5. Cotto adapts to every fighter he gets in the ring with. He picks up your rhythm and goes from there. He makes adjustments the entire fight. Most people who Floyd beat only have an A side.

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          #104
          Originally posted by Live Dog
          True, but I have reasons why I think Mayweather would win. Do you have the same for Cotto?
          Most definitely, Cotto can apply constant and effective pressure to Floyd. Cotto jab would drive Floyd back all night and his body work would break Floyd down. Floyd shoulder roll defense and potshots from the ropes would be totally inefective against Cotto.

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            #105
            Originally posted by Live Dog
            True, but I have reasons why I think Mayweather would win. Do you have the same for Cotto?
            I believe Mayweather would win too. But just because it is thought, doesn't mean it shouldn't be proven. That is the way I've always looked at this fight.

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              #106
              Originally posted by KING •
              1. Mayweather has never fought someone who hits are hard as Cotto.

              2. Cotto has good enough foot work to keep up with Floyd and cut off the ring.

              3. Cotto is just as experienced as Floyd in terms of time spent in the ring.

              4. Mayweather couldn't keep his shell up all night with someone smashing on him like Cotto would.

              5. Cotto adapts to every fighter he gets in the ring with. He picks up your rhythm and goes from there. He makes adjustments the entire fight. Most people who Floyd beat only have an A side.
              1) True. But Mayweather has only been hurt a few time in his career and has never even come close to being in danger of getting stopped. Is Cotto's power really that great that he could get to Floyd with one shot? I don't think so. Cotto's power is more cumulative and I believe Floyd's defense is more than capable of avoiding most of Miguel's shots.

              On the flip side Cotto has looked on the verge of being KO'd a couple times. Mayweather isn't a big puncher at 147, but he is accurate and Cotto has poor defense. I believe he lands enough punches to put Cotto's chin to the test.

              2) That's tough to say. Cotto has never fought someone with the level of footwork of Floyd. He may be able to cut off the ring in some rounds, but he won't in all of them. And even if he is able to cut off the ring, that means he is chasing Floyd. And if he is chasing that means he will be open to Floyd's counters.

              3) Time spent in the ring with who? Everyone likes to point out how Cotto has fought all comers (and he has), but who are these guys? Quintana, Malignaggi, Judah, Torres.......Mosley was his biggest test, and the only real accomplishment at WW that Shane has is beating Oscar.

              4) What shell? Better yet, lets say he does have a shell which means at least he has defense. Where is Cotto's defense?

              5) True, Cotto has shown adaptability. But the reason Mayweather's opponents haven't shown a great deal of adaptability is not because they have an A side only, it's because they know there is only one proven way to even get close to beating Mayweather. Why did Hatton use the same game plan for 10 full rounds even though he was getting beat on? Because he knew it was the only way to beat Floyd, he simply wasn't good enough at it.

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                #107
                Originally posted by JAB5239
                I believe Mayweather would win too. But just because it is thought, doesn't mean it shouldn't be proven. That is the way I've always looked at this fight.
                I don't disagree with you. I would love to see the fight.

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                  #108
                  Originally posted by bradicalusa220
                  ????????!!!!!!
                  well calling him out would be a waste of time. UNLESS you are past your prime or currently in a lower weight class and have trouble with your diet in between fights and have a drinking problem.

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                    #109
                    Originally posted by KING •
                    1. Mayweather has never fought someone who hits are hard as Cotto.
                    De La Hoya hits at least as hard as Cotto.
                    And don't start playing revisionist history on the De La Hoya fight, because that version of Oscar beats Cotto @ light-middle.

                    De La Hoya ain't a body-punch artist.
                    But here's the thing. Mayweather would make Cotto's bodywork look as ineffectual as he made Oscar's attempted bodywork.

                    That's how much Floyd Jr. would have your boy's number.




                    Originally posted by KING •
                    2. Cotto has good enough foot work to keep up with Floyd and cut off the ring.
                    Floyd has faced fighters with better and quicker footwork already.



                    Originally posted by KING •
                    3. Cotto is just as experienced as Floyd in terms of time spent in the ring.

                    Cotto hasn't faced near the amount of variety Floyd has.
                    He doesn't have near as much of the kind of experiences that translate to ring intelligence.




                    Originally posted by KING •
                    4. Mayweather couldn't keep his shell up all night with someone smashing on him like Cotto would.

                    That's what they all say.
                    Besides, the longer he sharpening his punches on Cotto's face, the easier it get.




                    Originally posted by KING •
                    5. Cotto adapts to every fighter he gets in the ring with. He picks up your rhythm and goes from there. He makes adjustments the entire fight. Most people who Floyd beat only have an A side.
                    You give your boy way too much credit.
                    He hasn't even faced that great a variety of styles to say that he could make adjustments against a fighter who is far more intuitive and has shown far more adaptability in the ring than Cotto will ever be or ever show.



                    Cotto would be made to look plain by Floyd.
                    Suck it up, baby-*****.

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                      #110
                      1. That's always my point as far as Cottos power. Not one punch KO. But accumulated damage. Accumulated damage is much worse than getting buzzed off one punch. Getting stunned you can recover from in due time. But getting pounded and having the **** beat out of your ribs/shoulder/elbows round after round - it takes your body out of the game. You sort of need that to continue.

                      2. Cotto isn't Hatton. He wouldn't come flying in hands down. So Cotto can chase. He'd have to. Floyd will NOT stand and trade with Miguel. Common sense man.

                      3. I meant life time - not who he fought. Just how much time he's invested in the sport.

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