S.R. Leoanrd vs Roberto Duran

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and srl was the golden boy of the good old usa. thay hated there little man getting a good beating off duran, if that fight was in any other country buran would of won on a much better points srl was a great boxer but duran is a legand,

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"Duran not have a chance to beat Leonard, He beat him once.



The result in the rematch was due to several factors that did hinder Duran's performance.

The first being that the Leonard camp made sure that Duran wouldn't be able to train more then three weeks to get ready for the rematch.

How did they do this. They pretended to have no intrest in a rematch and then came to Duran offering him a huge percentage, I tink the purse split was like 75-25. Of course Leonard was not concerned about the money in this fight. He was just trying to rebuild his name so there would be bigger paydays in the future.

Anyway, Duran of course accepted the offer, the catch being that the fight was going to take place three weeks after Duran was notified of it. The Leonard camp had been planning this for a long time and Leonard was in peak condition comming in.

Another factor is that "Hands of Stone" was not one to stay in shape and watch what he ate when he didn't have too. On top of that, this Duran was realtivly new to making weight at the welterweight divsion so he really did train to fight Leonard in the rematch during those three weeks, He trained to make weight.


Watch Duran's first fight with Leonard and then the rematch. You can tell he's not there to fight in the rematch. It doesn't look like Duran is at all prepared and it cost him."



Man I wish I would have been on this board when this guy posted this completely false post. 3 weeks to train, and people on here accepeted this line of BS. Duran trained for 2 months...Leonard and his people for 1 week...1 Week were stating Ray was going to retire, then he went to Hawaii and immediately demanded a rematch. Duran did blow up between fights, but this was never the excuse for his previous 71 fights, now was it?

Please I make me laugh when I stroll throught boards and people post false myths as if they were facts, or if they even researched it.......

Please people this is fun debat and all, but please test what people post. You can test me all you want....My reference regarding durans's training etc..is from Durans own mouth...

Hands of Stone...his book. I suggest you all get it for christmas, it is good reading. He is honest and dispells many of the mythes that many try to make, about the Leonard Duran 2nd fight. His own corner admits that if they had to box Ray, even in the 1st fight no matter what shape duran came in that Duran would lose. That is why they where sooooo upset that Padilla was the Referee, he had a history of not allowing in fighting,,,but in this fight he didnt do anything but slap the gloves when they clinched. (Score one for Duran team). Then 2ndly Duran got inside Ray's head and beat Leonard mentally before the fight started and won the battle of Styles...as Leonard elected to go toe to toe, instead boxing which the Duran team had to be thrilled to hear a Dundee say 2 nigts before the fight that Leonrd was going to go right after Duran and stop him possibly in the 1st round by definatley by the 4th round. (Score 2 for Duran)

No Duran lost the 2nd fight because Ray simply was a better man that night, and Ray did a couple of things differntly.

1. If you look at the 1st fight Duran shows how great defensivly he was, as Ray was throwing wild looping over hand rights and duran ducked underneath it and got insde ray. The 2nd fight starting with Round 2, every time Duran rushed in, he met upper cuts and hooks vs overhand rights....

2. The most obvious reason ..Leonard used movement, and Duran had problems with this in round 1 5-6 of the first fight too...(many people dont realize this, but go look for yourself) however in the 1st fight leonard was able to outbox duran when he boxed, but for the most part he elected to go toe to toe...In this 2nd fight, Leonrd for the most part boxed, and just like the 1at fight when they went toe to toe, I think round 4 or 5,,Duran won,by having Ray on the ropes.. Leonard simply used the right strategy this time.

[F.O.S]

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duran thew the fight for the cash and if you dont know that your ******

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proof that he threw the fight http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jq4-BFz9vI

[Wiley Hyena]

They are both 1-1 against each other. So we can avoid this impossible argument by considering that they were both great and well matched against each other. I respect them both. Duran slightly greater status IMO because of his other accomplishments in the ring. But, this is subject to debate.

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they are 1-1 against each other...Hmmm I think you better check your facts...and another myth...Duran through the fight for money....LOL good one...

[F.O.S]

They are both 1-1 against each other. So we can avoid this impossible argument by considering that they were both great and well matched against each other. I respect them both. Duran slightly greater status IMO because of his other accomplishments in the ring. But, this is subject to debate.

Although Duran is GOD ! SRL did beat him twice out of the 3 fights they had !

1989-12-07 - SRL - UD
1980-11-25 - SRL - TKO
1980-06-20 - DURAN - UD

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And the fight Ray lost was by 4 points spread over 3 cards....1 round scored differently Ray is 3-0 versus Duran....Fighting willingly durans style of fight....

[F.O.S]

And the fight Ray lost was by 4 points spread over 3 cards....1 round scored differently Ray is 3-0 versus Duran....Fighting willingly durans style of fight....

**** me you cant just alter the history books, Duran beat him full stop !