S.R. Leoanrd vs Roberto Duran

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  • kevvy1979
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    #11
    Originally posted by Sonny
    You're stoned. He was being thoroughly dominated in the second fight. It would have been a lopsided UD if not a KO.


    Now thats a joke.You must of not seen that fight.All judges had SRL only up by one or two points when he quit.So who is the one stoned,lol.

    Judge: Mike Jacobs 66-68 Judge: Jean Deswerts 66-68 Judge: James Brimmell 66-67


    Now come correct next time

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    • SonnyG8R
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      #12
      Originally posted by kevvy1979

      Now thats a joke.You must of not seen that fight.All judges had SRL only up by one or two points when he quit.So who is the one stoned,lol.

      Judge: Mike Jacobs 66-68 Judge: Jean Deswerts 66-68 Judge: James Brimmell 66-67


      Now come correct next time
      I don't know what the judges cards read, but I know that fight was not close and it was getting worse. I doubt Duran would have won another round. Leonard was in his head and Duran couldn't handle it.

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      • oldgringo
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        #13
        Originally posted by kevvy1979

        Now thats a joke.You must of not seen that fight.All judges had SRL only up by one or two points when he quit.So who is the one stoned,lol.

        Judge: Mike Jacobs 66-68 Judge: Jean Deswerts 66-68 Judge: James Brimmell 66-67


        Now come correct next time
        Duran couldn't take Leonard's mental onslaught. The scorecards meant nothing. There was an insane momentum shift in Leonard's favor. Duran was nothing but frustrated before the end came. He would have lost the bout by a clear UD.

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        • Hurlex
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          #14
          so your saying over all..SRL could have beaten even a prime duran????

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          • GasPed
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            #15
            Didn't see it live, but saw the replays at least twice. Sugar Ray was clearly winning when it was stopped.

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            • GasPed
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              #16
              Originally posted by Hurlex
              so your saying over all..SRL could have beaten even a prime duran????
              Duran in his prime (i.e. at lightweight) was a monster. Hard to imagine anyone taking him at that weight (Sanchez maybe?).

              But Duran as a lightweight monster doesn't make him a SR beater at welter.

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              • GxBrak
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                #17
                yeah leonard did in fact lose to duran but i believe that loss was more mental or a lack of preparation

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                • MikeHunt
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                  #18
                  Leonard was no match for Duran in Montreal and he knew if he fought toe to toe with Duran in the rematch he'd lose again.

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                  • Soundtraveler
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                    #19
                    Look, in the first fight everyone said that Sugar Ray was going to run from Duran - even Duran said it. He called Leonard everything in the book, but when it came to fight night, Leonard shocked everyone and went toe to toe with Duran.

                    Leonard proved he wasn't scared of Duran, he fought Durans' fight and Duran had his hands full all night. He didn't beat up Sugar Ray, but he did win the fight. There was no doubt in Sugar Rays' mind, he was going to beat this guy next time, no problem.

                    The next time around, Sugar Ray fought HIS OWN style of fight and it was a class that Duran knew he had no chance to make the grade in - he was going to fail and fail badly. He couldn't handle Leonards' speed and movement, it was no match, that night at the Superdome, Leonard became a legend, and Duran was never going to be the same, but he knew he wanted "no mas"...

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                    • JOM'S
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Sonny
                      "no mas" means no more. I quit.

                      Hurlex, no way was duran better than Leonard at 147.

                      In their first fight in 1980 Leonard made the mistake of fighting Duran's fight, and he almost beat Duran at his own game. But Duran etched out a close decision.

                      In the second fight Leonard totally outboxed Duran, frustrating him from the opening bell. That's why Duran quit. He was being made a fool of and his machismo led him to quit rather than continue to be embarrased.
                      I really did not see both fights but, I bet on the two fights, I won on the first one but I lost money on the second....

                      Truth, legend or myth, Sonny you called it on the button, this was the reason for the "NO MAS" that I grew up with....
                      Last edited by JOM'S; 11-01-2004, 03:55 AM.

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