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  • pesticid
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    #21
    Originally posted by BatTheMan
    What it takes is some balls by the governing bodies. They should charge a slight 'pension-fee' from every fight they sanction. The set-up should be like any other pension-fond scheme. Everybody pays or the wont fight for that organization. IMO the funds should be governed by some establised independant bank, law-, equity or auditfirm since I wouldn't trust the governing body itself.

    The fond should pay an amount to every fighter who has fought in one of their sanctioned fights on a monthly basis after their say 50'th birthday. The scheme should include some medical-insurance as well.
    Yeah but what you have to take into account is that there is a ton of fighters out there, some of them with 10% winning percentage. Who should get what? Some fighters are fighting for 1000 bucks, others for 30 million. Not everybody is fighting for a belt, Abraham and Miranda sure didn't the second time around. There are aslo many governing bodies, many belts. Fighters should set up their own retirement instead of blowing money on everything else. If you make 1000 bucks a fight and you fight 5 times a year, I'd consider this a part-time job. This idea can not work in the pros. It could work in the amateurs but definately not the U.S. amateur system cause they don't fight much as adults there, they turn pros. In countries like Cuba, Russia, Romania, Kazakstan and many other European countries where amateur boxing is much more prevalent, this could work. I am originally from Bulgaria and we have fighters who are in their mid-30's and still fighting in the amateur ranks.

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    • Fenom
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      #22
      sad sad sad.......makes you have more respect for refs that dont care about blood thirsty action and really cares about the fighters safety. No matter how good a fight is, the fighters safety should always be the 1st priority

      God Bless Gerald and Nigel.......and jack please dont make anymore jokes

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        #23
        Originally posted by pesticid
        Yeah but what you have to take into account is that there is a ton of fighters out there, some of them with 10% winning percentage. Who should get what? Some fighters are fighting for 1000 bucks, others for 30 million. Not everybody is fighting for a belt, Abraham and Miranda sure didn't the second time around. There are aslo many governing bodies, many belts. Fighters should set up their own retirement instead of blowing money on everything else. If you make 1000 bucks a fight and you fight 5 times a year, I'd consider this a part-time job. This idea can not work in the pros. It could work in the amateurs but definately not the U.S. amateur system cause they don't fight much as adults there, they turn pros. In countries like Cuba, Russia, Romania, Kazakstan and many other European countries where amateur boxing is much more prevalent, this could work. I am originally from Bulgaria and we have fighters who are in their mid-30's and still fighting in the amateur ranks.
        Sure it could work. I'm definetely not saying this should be under federal regulation rather controlled by the particular alphabet-org. I think that you perhaps are missing a bit of the point here. I'm not talking about saving the world for all fighters, but it should be possible to take a slice of the purse in fights the organization sanctions and then make the donations later to those who have fought the fights. Just like it is with normal pension-schemes (at least where I live and I think it's the same in the US as well).

        I cannot see the scheme implemented to cover 4-round fighters.

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        • pesticid
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          #24
          Originally posted by BatTheMan
          Sure it could work. I'm definetely not saying this should be under federal regulation rather controlled by the particular alphabet-org. I think that you perhaps are missing a bit of the point here. I'm not talking about saving the world for all fighters, but it should be possible to take a slice of the purse in fights the organization sanctions and then make the donations later to those who have fought the fights. Just like it is with normal pension-schemes (at least where I live and I think it's the same in the US as well).

          I cannot see the scheme implemented to cover 4-round fighters.
          I guess we'll agree to disagree. I just don't think it's as simple as that.

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            #25
            Originally posted by pesticid
            I guess we'll agree to disagree. I just don't think it's as simple as that.
            You might be right. There might be things I'm missing. Otherwise it should have been implemented by now. Maybe too many blood-suckers who wants to see cas now and ppl who dont think of the fighters before thinking of themselves.

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            • ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY
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              #26
              You know, what's right is right... I just watched the tape of this over again and I WAS WRONG... Ferdie wasnt as blatant as I said he was....I apologize if he ever reads this...he was saying that it MIGHT BE head trauma, it MIGHT BE a broken bone in the face or it MIGHT BE that he quit (it might be that his heart gave out) he kept saying that it was "resignation" on Gerald's part and just LOOKING at it that is what you could deduct from it...he said they'd have to wait and see when the doctors got in there and checked it out...so let it be known that Ferdie wasnt out of line like I thought he was.

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              • Brother Naazim
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                #27
                Heartbreaking, truly heartbreaking.

                I always feel a sense of deep sadness when I see fighters in bad shape like Gerald, Meldrick, and others.

                I always wrestle with the following question.

                "How can such a beautiful sport be so heartbreaking?"

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                • keepthemhandsup
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                  #28
                  i remember a while back it was a story on how Gerald was dog fighting his dogs and ****.....and people were like "oh well he deserved it" or "i hope he dies"

                  what kind of human would wish that on someone??

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                  • joseph5620
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by detluv
                    i remember a while back it was a story on how Gerald was dog fighting his dogs and ****.....and people were like "oh well he deserved it" or "i hope he dies"

                    what kind of human would wish that on someone??
                    A self righteous hypocrite who puts animals lives above humans.What's funny is that some of those same people have no problem going out and shooting an animal for sport.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by mspiegelo
                      long live mclellan's memory. he had the heart of a warrior and its a damn shame what happened to him. the ref should have stopped the fight numerous times in either direction. they were taking way too much punishment in there. plus nigel benn got like a 15 count in the 1st round, but that's another story.
                      1. Benn was on his feet at the count of six
                      2. If you are knocked out of the ring, you get longer than 10 seconds anyway

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