is calzage an all time great if he beats rjj and retires undefeated???

[bsrizpac]

What if the best out there avoid you like the plague until they reach an age where they can make the "shot" excuse afterwards?

WOW. You really think Roy and Toney were ducking Joe? You might have to get your head examined man. Seriously. Stop making up stuff.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

You gotta be kidding me. Are you saying Joe's resume stands up against Roy's? If so, please GTFO.

I didnt say anything. Im just asking for the really great names on Roy's record. When you're ready........

[Dirk Diggler UK]

WOW. You really think Roy and Toney were ducking Joe? You might have to get your head examined man. Seriously. Stop making up stuff.

Was thinking more Roy and Bhop. Toney was probably a cruiserweight by that time.

[Run]

No.

Because Jones is past his prime as a professional fighter.

In fact if he lost, lol that would totally tarnish his legacy.



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[Dan...]

I didnt say anything. Im just asking for the really great names on Roy's record. When you're ready........

It's not the fact that he has GREAT fighters on his resume but a lot of very good fighters. Guys like Griffin, Hill, R.Johnson, Grant, Julio Gonzalez, Tarver, and then obviously there is Toney and B-Hop. Although Ruiz is not a GREAT fighter he has a resume and for a guy who started at MW to move all the way up and beat a legitimate HW champ is equivalent to a win over a great fighter.

[Dan...]

Was thinking more Roy and Bhop. Toney was probably a cruiserweight by that time.

If anything it was Joe who ducked them. America is where it is at, do you see why?

[bsrizpac]

Was thinking more Roy and Bhop. Toney was probably a cruiserweight by that time.

Roy ducked Calzaghe? Are you SURE you want to say stuff like this? I mean seriously, where do Calzaghe fans come up with this ****. Do you just make stuff up out of thin air and then assert it constantly.

Why would Roy fight a guy who didn't want to leave his backyard when Roy was top dog? If *I* challenged Roy to a fight in his prime would he be ducking ME?

Give me a ****ing break.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

It's not the fact that he has GREAT fighters on his resume but a lot of very good fighters. Guys like Griffin, Hill, R.Johnson, Grant, Julio Gonzalez, Tarver, and then obviously there is Toney and B-Hop. Although Ruiz is not a GREAT fighter he has a resume and for a guy who started at MW to move all the way up and beat a legitimate HW champ is equivalent to a win over a great fighter.

Calzaghe also has very good fighters on his record. Lacy, Bika, Mitchell, Brewer, Reid. Kessler is better than very good, could be great. Hopkins and Eubanks were great fighters.

Calzaghe also has a lot of crap on there but dont act like Roy doesnt either.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Roy ducked Calzaghe? Are you SURE you want to say stuff like this? I mean seriously, where do Calzaghe fans come up with this ****. Do you just make stuff up out of thin air and then assert it constantly.

Why would Roy fight a guy who didn't want to leave his backyard when Roy was top dog? If *I* challenged Roy to a fight in his prime would he be ducking ME?

Give me a ****ing break.

Its funny, Calzaghe fought in Las Vegas for his last fight. Didnt realise that was his "backyard".

Hes also fought in Denmark, Germany, Scotland and England.

Yeah that Calzaghe sure stays close to home. Whereas Roy is virtually a backpacker having fought in America and.......errrr......

[Dan...]

Calzaghe also has very good fighters on his record. Lacy, Bika, Mitchell, Brewer, Reid. Kessler is better than very good, could be great. Hopkins and Eubanks were great fighters.

Calzaghe also has a lot of crap on there but dont act like Roy doesnt either.

You listed Bika. End. of. argument.

Roy's resume >>>>>>>>>>> Joe's resume.

Also, Kessler, at the moment, is nowhere close to great - his best win is Mundine.