At this point, i dont really know if cotto can stand up to 12 rounds of intensity

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  • El Jesus
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    #41
    Originally posted by Bianca
    well i actually finds very sexy a guy who shave or wax his legs or eyebrows jajja ok not in an extreme way but a guy with a clean body is just sexy jajaa. .... other wise margarito is no mosley so isnt that accurate... i think cotto can easily see his shots like mm let me think one minute before but is an excellent fight thats a fact....
    Margarito isnt that fast, but it doesnt matter, if hes throwing a ****ing barrage of punches, some of them are going to get in, volume alone will score him some clean hits, 12 rounds of this is what i am not so sure cotto can handle, but i have been wrong about cotto before.

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    • Pullcounter
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      #42
      Originally posted by Black Jesus
      Margarito isnt that fast, but it doesnt matter, if hes throwing a ****ing barrage of punches, some of them are going to get in, volume alone will score him some clean hits, 12 rounds of this is what i am not so sure cotto can handle, but i have been wrong about cotto before.
      if clottey can counterpunch margarito effectively with the peekaboo defense so can cotto.

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      • El Jesus
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        #43
        Originally posted by Pullcounter
        if clottey can counterpunch margarito effectively with the peekaboo defense so can cotto.
        that is not cottos style and it would be fairly amazing if cotto sat in a shell, used movement and didint allow margarito to get to him, because thats something we have never seen from cotto, clottey and cottos defense and offense arent similar.

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        • BMWM3P
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          #44
          Originally posted by Black Jesus
          Margarito isnt that fast, but it doesnt matter, if hes throwing a ****ing barrage of punches, some of them are going to get in, volume alone will score him some clean hits, 12 rounds of this is what i am not so sure cotto can handle, but i have been wrong about cotto before.
          And you are wrong again.

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            #45
            margarito wont respect cotto power if he didnt respect cintron hes not gonna be cautious against cotto even if he eats some hard shots (which he also did against cintron)
            i can understand why margarito feels confident he knows cotto punching power wont be a problem and he thinks his reach will be enough to catch cotto if he decides to box backwards
            i guarantee margarito is gonna keep coming no matter what, hes a mexican warrior he will pressure cotto until the final belt rings or cotto goes down
            cotto biggest chance is to do his best calderon imitation, circle around the ring throw some fast combinations on the inside and then keep moving while using the jab to annoy margarito
            problem with acting like calderon is that calderon style depends alot on hugging when the opponent is close and i dont know if cotto can clinch marg effectively

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            • El Jesus
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              #46
              Originally posted by BMWM3P
              And you are wrong again.

              Right, because i expect nothing but objective indepth analysis from a man who has access to cotto, helps promote his fights through photography and is a fan of him altogether?

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                #47
                Originally posted by Black Jesus
                Right, because i expect nothing but objective indepth analysis from a man who has access to cotto, helps promote his fights through photography and is a fan of him altogether?
                You'll see come July 26.

                Where was Margarito's intensity in the Clottey fight? I saw Margarito throw hundreds of inefective punches that couldn't ko a man who for all intents and purpose had given up. Even as discouraged as Clottey he was he was still able to hit Margarito at will in the 12 round.

                Just because he destroyed Cintron a man who's will wilted and just stood there and took a beating. Doesn't make Marg this unstopable force of nature. What I see in Marg is a big strong welterweight with a good chin, decent power and good stamina, who lacks the proper boxing skills and defense to beat a world class fighter like Miguel Cotto.
                Last edited by BMWM3P; 07-09-2008, 08:55 AM.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Black Jesus
                  I think Cotto is the better fighter, with the better skills and much better resume. But if styles make fights, and cotto for whatever ungodly reason cant move out of the way of a right hand, if he cant make margarito respect his power, margarito is going to likely stop cotto, and i say this not because cotto has no chin, and not because margarito has all this great punching power, its because i am really questioning cottos ability to give it all for 12 rounds. That mosley fight made me wonder, alot of it has to do with how economical cotto got in the last 3 rounds, i mean, this is why they fight the fights, because in reality i think this might be a nightmare matchup for cotto IF margarito doesnt respect his power, because cotto wont be the bigger guy this time and hes in there with someone who isnt just going to fold under his aggression.
                  that might be true but i still see him winning by ud or late tko

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                  • El Jesus
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by BMWM3P
                    You'll see come July 26.

                    Where was Margarito's intensity in the Clottey fight? I saw Margarito throw hundreds of inefective punches that couldn't ko a man who for all intents and purpose had given up. Even as discouraged as Clottey he was he was still to hit Margarito at will in the 12 round.

                    Just because he destroyed Cintron a man who's will wilted and just stood there and took a beating. Doesn't make Marg this unstopable force of nature. What I see in Marg is a big strong welterweight with a good chin, decent power and good stamina, who lacks the proper boxing skills and defense to beat a world class fighter like Miguel Cotto.

                    See thats the thing, you are comparing clottey/cintron fights to this one, if you read my initial post, i dont list margarito as being very good at all, its just his style that presents a matchup problem for cotto, because if margarito comes out guns blazing and cotto doesnt make him respect his power, cotto is in for the fight of his life, and lord help him if he loses stamina in the later rounds. None of the people who agree with me (save a few) think that margarito is some crazy world beater, its not that, its his style of 12 rounds of throwing punches all the ****ing time.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Black Jesus
                      See thats the thing, you are comparing clottey/cintron fights to this one, if you read my initial post, i dont list margarito as being very good at all, its just his style that presents a matchup problem for cotto, because if margarito comes out guns blazing and cotto doesnt make him respect his power, cotto is in for the fight of his life, and lord help him if he loses stamina in the later rounds. None of the people who agree with me (save a few) think that margarito is some crazy world beater, its not that, its his style of 12 rounds of throwing punches all the ****ing time.
                      I'll be the first to tell you I haven't seen too many Marg fights (Cintron x2, Paul, Clottey). But, does anyone actually know if he can put pressure on for 12 full rounds? He sure as hell didn't against Williams.

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