Boxing Vs Mma,ufc, Cage Fighting Ect....(video)

[JoHnNyBoXeR]

This has not been proven in anyway, shape or form. When have you seen a fight between a top grappler against a top boxer, it has never happened.

teach cotto MMA for 2 months and hes champ

[sunthunder]

If chuck lliddell can be so dominant with his sloppy ass striking and tim silvia imagine what Wlad Klit can do if taught some takedown defense.. can u take some bum off the street i.e Kimbo slice and headline him on national tv in boxing after a few months of training lol i dont think so


also u say strikers beat grapplers 99% of time.. thats not true in the UFC most of those champions fight stand up.. Rich Franklin, Chuck Liddell, St Pierre, Silvia, silva,robbie lawler etc..

Chuck Liddell was a division 1 collegiate wrestler long before he started kickboxing.

Tim Sylvia was a high school wrestler, Franklin had a wrestling background and BJJ brown belt, GSP has trained his wrestling for a long time with the candian olympic team and is to be honest, a supernaturally talented freak in that he was able to completely out-wrestle Matt Hughes, an All American wrestler.

Anderson Silva has a BJJ black belt and is a ridiculously good grappler.

Lawler also came from a wrestling background.

Every fighter you listed there was a wrestler first, except for Anderson Silva who started grappling not long after starting striking.

The only fighter to come from a pure striking background and picked up takedown defense relatively late in their game to make a serious dent in the rankings is Mirko Crocop, and even he, as dangerous as he is still ends up on his back.

Saying "all you have to do is teach world class boxer x good takedown defence" is as ****** as saying "well just teach that olympic wrestler elite boxing". Defensive wrestling and submission defence is incredibly hard to pick up.

[flem1]

There are not many fights between between true top boxers and grapplers, but there have been many instances of world class kickboxers, whose striking skills far exceed those of any fighters in MMA going in to MMA fights and being quickly submitted.

Although the most recent example of a boxer vs grappler would be in 2004, when Francois Botha fought a 185lb judoka named Yoshihiro Akiyama making his debut in MMA and was quickly taken down and submitted by armbar in under 2 minutes.

It has long been proven that pure strikers who make no effort in learning any takedown defence prior to entering a competition with a pure grappler nearly always get taken down and submitted quickly.

Yep, and grapplers with ****ty stand up get beat up really bad when they can't take their opponent down.

[Tysonisgod]

This has not been proven in anyway, shape or form. When have you seen a fight between a top grappler against a top boxer, it has never happened.

Art Jimmerson, now this is not a TOP boxer, but he was number 10 ranked IBF lightheavyweight, So its still a top 10 ranked boxer.

He was 5'11, 195pounds, 29-5 (20) Gracie was 6'1 and 178 and had basicly no punching so this is wat happened......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCsyGduUvzE

[mrpain81]

Thread should be deleted IMO.

[BMWM3P]

Thread should be deleted IMO.

I agree, I don't know why I wasted my time aguing with these fools.

[My Name Is...]

Art Jimmerson, now this is not a TOP boxer, but he was number 10 ranked IBF lightheavyweight, So its still a top 10 ranked boxer.

He was 5'11, 195pounds, 29-5 (20) Gracie was 6'1 and 178 and had basicly no punching so this is wat happened......


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCsyGduUvzE

This is from UFC 1. I watches it live. That was a while back.

[TheManchine]

Art Jimmerson, now this is not a TOP boxer, but he was number 10 ranked IBF lightheavyweight, So its still a top 10 ranked boxer.

He was 5'11, 195pounds, 29-5 (20) Gracie was 6'1 and 178 and had basicly no punching so this is wat happened......


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCsyGduUvzE

why did he tap?

[sunthunder]

Yep, and grapplers with ****ty stand up get beat up really bad when they can't take their opponent down.

And when can they not take their opponents down? When their opponent has learned some defensive wrestling and learned to stuff shots and avoid clinch takedowns.