Skills Break-Down Poll: Jones vs. Calzaghe

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  • THE REED
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    #11
    Originally posted by FUC_U_PAYME
    Calzaghe ko jones late
    be nice you bastard

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    • Silencers
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      #12
      Originally posted by reedickyaluss
      what would be good selections for cotto margarito


      i was thinking

      boxing ability
      power
      heart
      chin
      stamina

      i need 5
      Those are good selections.

      Power
      Speed
      Offense
      Defense
      Intangibles (Heart/Will/Desire etc.)

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        #13
        Originally posted by Silencers
        Those are good selections.

        Power
        Speed
        Offense
        Defense
        Intangibles (Heart/Will/Desire etc.)
        actually i need 4.... the 5th selection will be who wins the fight

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        • abadger
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          #14
          The problem with a poll like this is that it considers the skills each boxer has in isolation, but in any boxing match it is the way the skills are used together that determines the outcome.

          For example, Jones still has faster hands than Calzaghe, but he no longer has the stamina to throw those speedy shots with any great frequency. Same with power, it only counts if you hit an opponent like Calzaghe a hell of a lot, and that simply is not going to happen, because Roy no longer has the whole package required to do so.

          This topic reminds me a lot of the pre-Hopkins talk. "Bernard's counter right will defeat Calzaghe" etc. maybe it would have if Bernard had been able to do more than just that, but he couldn't, so he lost. I think this is probably what will happen to Jones.

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            #15
            Originally posted by abadger
            The problem with a poll like this is that it considers the skills each boxer has in isolation, but in any boxing match it is the way the skills are used together that determines the outcome.

            For example, Jones still has faster hands than Calzaghe, but he no longer has the stamina to throw those speedy shots with any great frequency. Same with power, it only counts if you hit an opponent like Calzaghe a hell of a lot, and that simply is not going to happen, because Roy no longer has the whole package required to do so.

            This topic reminds me a lot of the pre-Hopkins talk. "Bernard's counter right will defeat Calzaghe" etc. maybe it would have if Bernard had been able to do more than just that, but he couldn't, so he lost. I think this is probably what will happen to Jones.
            thats why the stamina selection is there... and the stamina could be the most important selection..

            like i said on page 1.... roy has the skills to beat joe... but will he use them ENOUGH!

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              #16
              Originally posted by reedickyaluss
              actually i need 4.... the 5th selection will be who wins the fight
              It's up to you, those are my suggestions, pick whichever one or ones you like or just go with your own.

              Edit: I just thought of 2 more.

              Ring Generalship
              Ring Intelligence
              Last edited by Silencers; 07-03-2008, 10:01 AM.

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              • abadger
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                #17
                Originally posted by reedickyaluss
                thats why the stamina selection is there... and the stamina could be the most important selection..

                like i said on page 1.... roy has the skills to beat joe... but will he use them ENOUGH!
                But if he can't actually use those skills then in fact he doesn't have them does he?

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                • moofo
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                  #18
                  Roy Jones is spent.
                  And hasn't had a meaningful win for a long time.
                  His performance against a tired blown up inactive Tito is no measure of Roy's ability at this moment in time to say he is any good.
                  Calzaghe by TKO mid to late rounds in impressive fashion.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by reedickyaluss
                    be nice you bastard
                    fine Joe wins a ud happy reed but a prime Roy wins this fight

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by moofo
                      Roy Jones is spent.
                      And hasn't had a meaningful win for a long time.
                      His performance against a tired blown up inactive Tito is no measure of Roy's ability at this moment in time to say he is any good.
                      Calzaghe by TKO mid to late rounds in impressive fashion.
                      ill bet you 2 million points roy doesnt hit the canvas

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