Why do people think sluggers with no defense are "giving the fans what they like?"

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  • Sin City
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    #41
    Originally posted by Black Jesus
    but the mayweather "of now" scored that beautiful KO of ricky hatton and gave us that great fight against judah. 2 boring fights against DLH/Baldomir doesnt judge his entire career.
    Really.. the Ricky fight was OK, it had it's moments.
    The thing that really took from the excitment of that fight was all the holding and ****.

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    • El Jesus
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      #42
      Originally posted by Sin City
      Really.. the Ricky fight was OK, it had it's moments.
      The thing that really took from the excitment of that fight was all the holding and ****.
      But we knew it would be that way, we knew back when he was at 140 the fight would play out like that, the styles would force that type of action, either way, the "boring runner" label that mayweather suddenly aquired came mostly from the baldomir/dlh fights. Before that, i dont ever remember mayweather being labeled like that on any board, especially circa 01-05

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        #43
        Originally posted by Black Jesus
        But we knew it would be that way, we knew back when he was at 140 the fight would play out like that, the styles would force that type of action, either way, the "boring runner" label that mayweather suddenly aquired came mostly from the baldomir/dlh fights. Before that, i dont ever remember mayweather being labeled like that on any board, especially circa 01-05
        I agree. And yes, everyone knew it was gonna play out that way.. I actually thought it was gonna be horrible so I was surprised and shocked the way it went. I give Mayweather props for the KO.. I didn't think that would happen either.
        I predicted a very wide UD for Mayweather.

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          #44
          Originally posted by tito yuca
          Seriously, are people so ****** that they believe boxers care about what the fans may want so much that they would get hit more on purpose to make the fight exciting? I can't believe people think this is the case. If they fight like that it's because they have more power than skills and think that by bum rushing their opponent they might get the K.O. - THAT'S IT. It's not because they are so preoccupied with the FANS. And if they were, that would be ****** as ****, because they risk losing and harming their careers and themselves just to make people have fun. People who do not care about them as persons and only want to see the fights.

          A real intelligent fighter, a real intelligent PERSON actually, when in competition, does what he can to WIN. If someone competing in ANYTHING has goals other than to WIN, then he/she is a TERRIBLE competitor. So if these so-called warriors who only want to please the fans compromise their skills so that the fans will be entertained, they are unaware of the main objective of their sport, and I can't understand why they should be respected at all.

          i agree with you, the avergae fan does not.
          they want knockdowns and knockouts big punchers with no defence give them this!

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          • HappyBoxingFan
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            #45
            Originally posted by tito yuca
            Seriously, are people so ****** that they believe boxers care about what the fans may want so much that they would get hit more on purpose to make the fight exciting? I can't believe people think this is the case. If they fight like that it's because they have more power than skills and think that by bum rushing their opponent they might get the K.O. - THAT'S IT. It's not because they are so preoccupied with the FANS. And if they were, that would be ****** as ****, because they risk losing and harming their careers and themselves just to make people have fun. People who do not care about them as persons and only want to see the fights.

            A real intelligent fighter, a real intelligent PERSON actually, when in competition, does what he can to WIN. If someone competing in ANYTHING has goals other than to WIN, then he/she is a TERRIBLE competitor. So if these so-called warriors who only want to please the fans compromise their skills so that the fans will be entertained, they are unaware of the main objective of their sport, and I can't understand why they should be respected at all.

            I see where you're coming from... But, you're probably not 100% correct. Why does Ron Artest jepordize his career by running into the stands... it is entirely irrational and indefensible. Sometimes the atmosphere and energy take you to a place that you weren't planning on going.

            As to the second point, I couldn't agree less.

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            • VIVA MEXICO!!
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              #46
              Originally posted by bsrizpac
              Margarine has never made money nor has he attracted any fans up until now. The ****er couldn't even get many mexicans to show up to his fight.

              There goes your ****** ****ing argument. As usual.
              how many fighters are making over $1 million a fight?? only the top tier of fighters.

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                #47
                Originally posted by tredh
                The bold is complete bull**** and if you look at the history of boxing more pure boxers have made way more money than less skilled brawlers.
                action fighters have always made more money than pure boxers. gatti who is just an action fighter and a complete bum made millions by giving the fans excitement.

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                • Pullcounter
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by deevel79
                  U can be technical, yet exciting at the same time. Look at Juan Manuel Marquez! Guys like Spinks on the other hand are almost impossible for me to watch.
                  JMM is not technical and exciting at the same time

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                  • nnamme
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by tito yuca
                    Seriously, are people so ****** that they believe boxers care about what the fans may want so much that they would get hit more on purpose to make the fight exciting? I can't believe people think this is the case. If they fight like that it's because they have more power than skills and think that by bum rushing their opponent they might get the K.O. - THAT'S IT. It's not because they are so preoccupied with the FANS. And if they were, that would be ****** as ****, because they risk losing and harming their careers and themselves just to make people have fun. People who do not care about them as persons and only want to see the fights.

                    A real intelligent fighter, a real intelligent PERSON actually, when in competition, does what he can to WIN. If someone competing in ANYTHING has goals other than to WIN, then he/she is a TERRIBLE competitor. So if these so-called warriors who only want to please the fans compromise their skills so that the fans will be entertained, they are unaware of the main objective of their sport, and I can't understand why they should be respected at all.
                    Compromise their skills?? If that's how many of these warriors fight then you can't change them into an "intelligent" way of fighting, unless they themselves choose to. It depends upon how accustomed they are in the way they fight. I don't think these warriors are there just to please the fans! It's just the way they fight!

                    And why do many fans love them? Because many fans know a little about your "intelligent" way of fighting! You try to let the fans fight themselves and you'll realize how they fight! Warriors!

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                    • supermandathoe
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                      #50
                      Trust me if these sluggers could be slick boxers, they would be.

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