Taylor chavez, this still makes me sick

[Silencers]

Yeah, him and Benton didn't give the best advice going into the 12th.

I can see why they told him that though. You can never be that sure, especially in Vegas. Although I had Taylor winning, I didn't have him as ahead as some other cards (like Lederman). I gave him 7 of the first 8, with round 2 going to Chavez. Round 9 to Chavez. Round 10 even, and that was a great two-way round. Round 11 to Chavez.

That's 7-3-1 for Taylor, but I can understand if the corner was keeping their own score and not wanting to be too overconfident. Let's say round 10 goes to Chavez and one of the other rounds from 1-8 goes to Chavez. That would make it just 6-5.

I did think Taylor was clearly ahead but I understand what you're saying, Duva could have just told him to go out and finish strong while not risking himself too much though.

[MaYaN_SuN]

Chavez, or more appropriately, King, waited 4 and a half years to give Taylor a rematch. When Taylor had deteroriated more than Chavez had in that time.

Taylor probably wouldn't have minded a relatively quick rematch if he won. As for Team Taylor? It would've been better if they took some time for a rematch, after the beating Taylor took.

But who knows? They made that poor choice of putting Taylor in there with Terry Norris.

And with all that punishment Taylor took, if he got the decision, he would give Chavez an immediate rematch? Ehhh, I don't know about that.

Did they put him in with Terry Norris before or after Chavez? Cause if it was after, in their defense, they probably really wanted Taylor to get a well deserving big win. I mean Taylor was a insanely talented fighter. lol I don't know how didn't knock Chavez out and vice versa, lol they were landin BOMBS on eachother. It was a brutal fight and brutal outcome.

[slicksouthpaw16]

And with all that punishment Taylor took, if he got the decision, he would give Chavez an immediate rematch? Ehhh, I don't know about that.

Did they put him in with Terry Norris before or after Chavez? Cause if it was after, in their defense, they probably really wanted Taylor to get a well deserving big win. I mean Taylor was a insanely talented fighter. lol I don't know how didn't knock Chavez out and vice versa, lol they were landin BOMBS on eachother. It was a brutal fight and brutal outcome.

Norris/Taylor happened 2 years after the Chavez/Taylor fight and that was at junior middleweight. Taylor was cleary shot by that point. Also, Taylor wasn't going to knock Chavez out regaurdless. Chavez is too tough and Taylor was not a big puncher by any means.

On topic, i blame Richard Steele. All he had to do was talk to Taylor for 5 more seconds and the fight would have been over. Had he let the fight continue, Chavez wouldn't have made it across the ring in order to get to Taylor. Thats one fight that i refuse to watch again.

[MaYaN_SuN]

Norris/Taylor happened 2 years after the Chavez/Taylor fight and that was at junior middleweight. Taylor was cleary shot by that point. Also, Taylor wasn't going to knock Chavez out regaurdless. Chavez is too tough and Taylor was not a big puncher by any means.

On topic, i blame Richard Steele. All he had to do was talk to Taylor for 5 more seconds and the fight would have been over. Had he let the fight continue, Chavez wouldn't have made it across the ring in order to get to Taylor. Thats one fight that i refuse to watch again.

Yeah I'm lookin at his record now, he's got alot of UD's.

[slicksouthpaw16]

Yeah I'm lookin at his record now, he's got alot of UD's.

When he would sit down on his shots, then he would have a bit of pop in his punches but not much. He was mainly an accumulation puncher and his game was mainly his speed, boxing ability and effective volume punching. He didn't have any power when he threw his combinations. I remember him fighting James Buddy Mgirt(who was a very tough and skilled fighter and multiple world champion) and stopping his when he gassed out late.

[Sithis]

Norris/Taylor happened 2 years after the Chavez/Taylor fight and that was at junior middleweight. Taylor was cleary shot by that point. Also, Taylor wasn't going to knock Chavez out regaurdless. Chavez is too tough and Taylor was not a big puncher by any means.

On topic, i blame Richard Steele. All he had to do was talk to Taylor for 5 more seconds and the fight would have been over. Had he let the fight continue, Chavez wouldn't have made it across the ring in order to get to Taylor. Thats one fight that i refuse to watch again.

definetly agree

[βetamax]

I don't really blame Duva too much in the closing seconds. Face it, if your brain can't handle 2 tasks at one time (looking over at the corner and responding to the ref) then you probably shouldn't continue.

[oldgringo]

When he would sit down on his shots, then he would have a bit of pop in his punches but not much. He was mainly an accumulation puncher and his game was mainly his speed, boxing ability and effective volume punching. He didn't have any power when he threw his combinations. I remember him fighting James Buddy Mgirt(who was a very tough and skilled fighter and multiple world champion) and stopping his when he gassed out late.

That was a bit of a pointless stoppage, But Mel was clearly winning the fight regardless. Mel beat him with sheer volume and determination that night. I just wonder why Certo pulled the plug on McGirt that late in the fight.

[poeticlsykuac]

Norris/Taylor happened 2 years after the Chavez/Taylor fight and that was at junior middleweight. Taylor was cleary shot by that point. Also, Taylor wasn't going to knock Chavez out regaurdless. Chavez is too tough and Taylor was not a big puncher by any means.

On topic, i blame Richard Steele. All he had to do was talk to Taylor for 5 more seconds and the fight would have been over. Had he let the fight continue, Chavez wouldn't have made it across the ring in order to get to Taylor. Thats one fight that i refuse to watch again.

Now that is bull **** now you are taking away the chance that Chavez finishes it, there is someone getting robbed either way. Steel knew time was short, but he didn't know there was 2 seconds. Why do you think he was right there next to him and getting ready to allow the fight, problem is Taylor showed no positive motivation to fight.

If Duva is on the apron that is a automatic DQ. Taylor was ruined by this fight, doesn't anyone understand that? Regardless of whether he had a few good fights left, he was never the same.

If there was 10 seconds left which is all that red light signifies, do you not think that JCC couldn't have beat the hell out of him? Say it goes 5 more seconds, I am a big guy I can land about 3 punches in a second so say he misses 5 times 10 shots is damaging when you are that hurt. Now take into consideration the light signifies there is 10 seconds left not 2!

[Thread Stealer]

And with all that punishment Taylor took, if he got the decision, he would give Chavez an immediate rematch? Ehhh, I don't know about that.

I don't see Taylor having a problem with it. He was too brave for his own good.

He did fight just 4-5 months after the rough fight with Chavez, in a rematch with Primo Ramos. He looked alright in it.

Usually it's probably the team that makes the choices anyway.

Did they put him in with Terry Norris before or after Chavez? Cause if it was after, in their defense, they probably really wanted Taylor to get a well deserving big win. I mean Taylor was a insanely talented fighter. lol I don't know how didn't knock Chavez out and vice versa, lol they were landin BOMBS on eachother. It was a brutal fight and brutal outcome.

It was 2 years later. Taylor had won the WBA title @ 147, but had looked very vulnerable in his latest title defense against Glenwood Brown. They let Taylor move up again (I think a catchweight) to fight Terry Norris, and that was just a bad move. Maybe it was a "cash-out" fight as they could see Taylor was slipping and wanted him to make as much money as possible.

It was Taylor's mandatory defense stoppage loss to Cristano Espana, a few months later on the undercard of Lewis-Ruddock, that was the last straw for Duva, as he publically said he wanted Taylor to hang them up.

Taylor looked terrible that night.