Let's hate on Mayweather and praise Calzaghe

[pesticid]

Then what about non title fights?

Floyd's win over Judah > Joe's win over Tocker Pudwill
Floyd's win over Corrales > Joe's win over Peter Manfredo
Floyd's win over Hatton > Joe's win over Sakio Bika
Floyd's win over Corley > Joe's win over Kabary Salem
Floyd's win over N'Dou > Joe's win over Evans Ashira
Floyd's win over Mitchell > Joe's win over Mgar Mkrtchian

How many times did Joe defend his title, how many times did Floyd defend his titles?

[pesticid]

I know that. I think Lacy is Joe's best win aside from bernard (controversial). I'm just pointing out his ridiculous argument.

He says Corrales was overrated. I describe Corrales as an undefeated knockout artist who nobody wanted to fight. He says it sounds like Lacy.

Therefore by his own standards, if Corrales was overrated, then Lacy must be as well by his opinion.

Corrales is not overrated, in fact he's Mayweather's best win. Corrales was legit. Fools that say that Corrales was overrated are the same fools that say that Lacy was overrated.

[Lord13]

There is a huge difference between retiring at your late 30s and retiring AT 30.

Floyd deserves the hate because he just quit like a *****, "I'm bored with boxing" he says.

How can you be a fan of somebody who quits? He quit in his prime, AT 30!

Sorry but I can't respect that. Not one bit!

[ßringer]

How many times did Joe defend his title, how many times did Floyd defend his titles?

Title defenses are great, but at the end of the day they don't stack up compared to capturing multiple titles in multiple weight classes. (This was hard for me to accep tbeing a huge Hopkins fan and comparing Roy to Bernard.)

[RichCCFC]

Of course Jeff Lacy was overrated. Want a medal?

[ßringer]

Corrales is not overrated, in fact he's Mayweather's best win. Corrales was legit. Fools that say that Corrales was overrated are the same fools that say that Lacy was overrated.

That's my point, and I'm glad we agree.

[ßringer]

There is a huge difference between retiring at your late 30s and retiring AT 30.

Floyd deserves the hate because he just quit like a *****, "I'm bored with boxing" he says.

How can you be a fan of somebody who quits? He quit in his prime, AT 30!

Sorry but I can't respect that. Not one bit!

So you hate Floyd because he was smarter than Joe and was able to retire years earlier, with a better legacy?

[pesticid]

So you hate Floyd because he was smarter than Joe and was able to retire years earlier, with a better legacy?

Maybe so but you hate on euros just cause they don;t fight in U.S. as often. I mean who cares. Yes, I would've liked to see Zaghe fight Pavlik, I think zaghe would've won but you got to win still. I picked Pavlik against Miranda and twice against Taylor. I can cut Zaghe some slack cause he's old, he went to 175, I don't know if he wants to go back to 168, and Pavlik is a **** draw as much as I like him. I thought he would be a huge draw after the first Taylor fight but the Lockett fight had only 1 mil viewers, pathetic. Roy had 500k in ppv buys against Tito.

I am more mad at Zaghe for not choosing to fight the toughest fighter at 175, Glen Johnson.

[ßringer]

Maybe so but you hate on euros just cause they don;t fight in U.S. as often. I mean who cares. Yes, I would've liked to see Zaghe fight Pavlik, I think zaghe would've won but you got to win still. I picked Pavlik against Miranda and twice against Taylor. I can cut Zaghe some slack cause he's old, he went to 175, I don't know if he wants to go back to 168, and Pavlik is a **** draw as much as I like him. I thought he would be a huge draw after the first Taylor fight but the Lockett fight had only 1 mil viewers, pathetic. Roy had 500k in ppv buys against Tito.

I am more mad at Zaghe for not choosing to fight the toughest fighter at 175, Glen Johnson.

I don't hate European fighters. This is a common misconception, spread by the Pro-Calzaghe crowd. I'm critical of a lot of fighters, but the one I'm most critical of is Joe Calzaghe, therefore I must automatically hate European fighters.

Because I think Kelly Pavlik will defeat Arthur Abraham, I must automatically hate European fighters. Disregard all the positive things I've said about Arthur in the past, I'm picking Kelly, so therefore I'm a hater.

Wladimir Klitschko is one of my favorite current fighters, he's Eastern European, is he not?

Everytime I'm critical of a fighter, I'm labelled anti-whatever Country he's from. Same **** happens when I critique Pacquiao, I'm anti-Filipino.

[pesticid]

I don't hate European fighters. This is a common misconception, spread by the Pro-Calzaghe crowd. I'm critical of a lot of fighters, but the one I'm most critical of is Joe Calzaghe, therefore I must automatically hate European fighters.

Because I think Kelly Pavlik will defeat Arthur Abraham, I must automatically hate European fighters. Disregard all the positive things I've said about Arthur in the past, I'm picking Kelly, so therefore I'm a hater.

Wladimir Klitschko is one of my favorite current fighters, he's Eastern European, is he not?

Everytime I'm critical of a fighter, I'm labelled anti-whatever Country he's from. Same **** happens when I critique Pacquiao, I'm anti-Filipino.

It's not that you pick Pavlik or Hopkins. It's that you dismiss completely fighters like Abraham and Zaghe. I think you said that Bhop was going to stop Zaghe and then you say Pavlik will mop the floor with AA, based on what evidence exactly.

Criticism doesn't mean hate, criticism and bitterness though do, that's why I think you hate on AA and Zaghe cause you're a little too bitter when you talk about them.

ps: AA has defended his title like 7 or 8 times. Pavlik once.