Is Bernard Hopkins a smart fighter?

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  • Stickman
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    #101
    Originally posted by Flawless
    I recently re-watched the fight with Tito, I never realised how Hopkins easily accounted for him. Grabbing him and man handling him, every time Trinidad tried to get into rhythm Hopkins upset him, counter punching and grabbing Tito. Against Winky that beautiful head butt that cut open Winky. The Calzgahe fight, Hopkins was smart little head butts in there. Is Bernard Hopkins a smart fighter. Your opinion please?
    There's nothing beautiful about an intentional butt, and Hopkins is probably the worst in the sport, or nearly so...one of the reasons I just don't care for the guy.

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      #102
      Originally posted by warp1432
      I don't think he gassed against Winky. I thought he finished really well actually.
      you're right he did finish really strong against winky. but there were a couple rounds he seemed a lil tired, or maybe he was just taking them off or not being very active for whatever reason.

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      • Stickman
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        #103
        Originally posted by Tunney
        I don't like him, but he definitely is one of the smartest, trickiest, dirtiest fighters in the sport.
        Amen, brother.

        I don't give much green K, but here's yours.

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          #104
          Originally posted by Stickman
          There's nothing beautiful about an intentional butt, and Hopkins is probably the worst in the sport, or nearly so...one of the reasons I just don't care for the guy.
          like I said I think bhop gets criticized too much for being dirty, he's not the worst in the sport by far. The headbutt against winky, if that was intentional that was the greatest headbutt in the history of headbutts because not only was he bouncing off the ropes winky was lunging in at the exact same moment. I just don't know how you can plan that

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          • Miburo
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            #105
            Hopkins possesses tremendous ring intelligence. Maybe only Mayweather is superior in this respect out of contemporary fighters.

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            • BKM-
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              #106
              Hopkins to me, is the epitimy of a smart fighter. Instead of being so naturally gifted as others, he relied purely on his boxing skills(as well as other things sometimes) to make him succesful. The fact that he is still this competitive at this age proves it.

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              • IMDAZED
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                #107
                Originally posted by Stickman
                That's one of the things that makes him so smart...he doesn't get into the ring with guys his own size or bigger very often, and when he does, he plays it safe. He saves the flashy **** for when he's fighting smaller guys he can handle easier.
                Be careful, you're exposing yourself.

                When did you start watching Bernard Hopkins...honestly?

                I mean, you do realized that prior to beating Trinidad, he was ALREADY 36 and had successfully defended his middleweight crown 13 times, already tied for the record?

                You do know that was against a lot of middleweights, right? I mean, don't assume he was a nobody because YOU hadn't heard of him. And don't assume he beat little guys his whole career just because you caught the tail end of it (ironic since he leaped two divisions to close out his career).

                Unless, of course, the 32-0 Glenn Johnson who he beat the **** out of was a little guy. Or even two-time champ Keith Holmes, who weighed 184 on fight night...yeah, he was tiny.

                Heck, very few people considered Hopkins stronger than Tito in the weeks leading up to the bout. Following his massacre of Joppy, Tito was expected to bomb Hopkins out (ridiculous, when you think of it).

                Bernard Hopkins' prime was around 97-99 IMO. He was a monster then, a fighter at his physical peak; the long-reigning middle champ; considered one of the ten best in the world by nearly every list but couldn't get anyone to utter his name. Don King wouldn't let his fellow champs (Holmes & Joppy) anywhere near BHop. It wasn't until he found a special fighter in Trinidad - and Hopkins talked himself into the middleweight tourney - that Hops got his shot. And look what he did, even at his advanced age. Just goes to show you how great he was. If you missed his prime, I urge you to go find some tapes. That man didn't beat up on smaller fighters...he beat everybody.
                Last edited by IMDAZED; 06-27-2008, 11:16 PM.

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                • warp1432
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                  #108
                  The record was 14.

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                    #109
                    Originally posted by IMDAZED
                    Be careful, you're exposing yourself.

                    When did you start watching Bernard Hopkins...honestly?

                    I mean, you do realized that prior to beating Trinidad, he was ALREADY 36 and had successfully defended his middleweight crown 13 times, already tied for the record?

                    You do know that was against a lot of middleweights, right? I mean, don't assume he was a nobody because YOU hadn't heard of him. And don't assume he beat little guys his whole career just because you caught the tail end of it (ironic since he leaped two divisions to close out his career).

                    Unless, of course, the 32-0 Glenn Johnson who he beat the **** out of was a little guy. Or even two-time champ Keith Holmes, who weighed 184 on fight night...yeah, he was tiny.

                    Heck, very few people considered Hopkins stronger than Tito in the weeks leading up to the bout. Following his massacre of Joppy, Tito was expected to bomb Hopkins out (ridiculous, when you think of it).

                    Bernard Hopkins' prime was around 97-99 IMO. He was a monster then, a fighter at his physical peak; the long-reigning middle champ; considered one of the ten best in the world by nearly every list but couldn't get anyone to utter his name. Don King wouldn't let his fellow champs (Holmes & Joppy) anywhere near BHop. It wasn't until he found a special fighter in Trinidad - and Hopkins talked himself into the middleweight tourney - that Hops got his shot. And look what he did, even at his advanced age. Just goes to show you how great he was. If you missed his prime, I urge you to go find some tapes. That man didn't beat up on smaller fighters...he beat everybody.
                    Great post man. This is exactly why I take the time to defend hopkins because so many people on this site simply never saw the man in his prime and say some pretty ****** and disrespectful things. ****, I bet most of the people on here have only seen him against Calzaghe and Winky.

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                    • Silencers
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                      #110
                      He's smart, not as smart as he thinks he is but he's pretty smart, especially at fouling.

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