Is Manny Pacquiao a DRAW?

[Bea5T]

not in america

but anywhere else pacman is a draw

[Left Hook Tua]

I wasn't too impressed by Omar Chavez either, he kept lunging forward and going off balance when he attacked, needs some work.

who do you think is better? seen jr. fight but not his brother.

julio jr. needs some work but he's young and he can improve.

[ferocity]

There are a lot of good boxers who don't take nearly as many punches trying to knock a guy out. Do you notice that whenever Marquez opens up and fights that kind of style, he usually gets either knocked down or cut or stunned?

There is a reason he doesn't elect to fight that style much, it doesn't suit him well.

Norwood was countering the counterpuncher, and when Marquez was unable to make a guy come to him and open up, he finds himself on the wrong side of counters.

LOL, did you even read what you typed? Most fighters who press the action are going to get hit more.

[Silencers]

who do you think is better? seen jr. fight but not his brother.

julio jr. needs some work but he's young and he can improve.

At this point I have to say JCC Jr., Omar is very rough around the edges but he's only had about 10 pro fights so he has time to develop.

[Left Hook Tua]

The reason Marquez was over shadowed by Morales and Barrea is because of there exciting boxing style.

Marquez was not over shadowed when he was fighting back in the Great Wester Fourm days.

You really have no clue what the **** you're talking about!

don't get pissy because i don't like your man.

your man is good but he's no erik or marco.

i'm not a marquez expert but i have seen enough of his fights to make an opinion about it. my opinion he can't beat marco or erik prime vs. prime. marco would ud him and erik would tko/ko his ass.

[Left Hook Tua]

You know the differces between Marqeuz and Morales/Pacquiao???????????????? Both were forced to keep moving up in weight...........................Marquez has moved up in weight by CHOICE!

Which opponet of Morales, Barrera or Pacquiao would've beat Marquez?

what does moving up in weight have to do with anything? erik kept moving up because he is the biggest of the bunch. marco and manny had to follow him for the money. fighting guys at 122 and jumping to 130 earlier than juan ma gave those guys a few more big names as well.

which opponent could beat marquez? very few.

you're missing my point i'm not saying juan ma couldn't do what erik and marco did. my point is he didn't. i'm not saying it was his fault either. guys were wary of fighting juan ma and that hurt him. but that doesn't change the fact that he doesn't have as many solid to big names as erik and marco! if he had fought naseem like marco he would've beat naseem as well but the fact is he never beat naseem 'cause he never faced him. you can't say a guy is great because he WOULD HAVE beat this guy or that! you can only say a guy is great BECAUSE HE BEAT this guy or that.

out of the 4 other great feathers in the past era......hamed , marco , erik and manny. juanma i could only see beating pac or naseem. juan ma couldn't have beat erik and marco imo. i know you disagree but that's my opinion.

[Left Hook Tua]

At this point I have to say JCC Jr., Omar is very rough around the edges but he's only had about 10 pro fights so he has time to develop.

as long as they have their dad's chin and toughness......they'll do okay. their old mad wasn't polished either but he wore guys down.

[ferocity]

Plus Casamayor is a stronger guy. Let's be real, guys with Marquez's style usually don't do well when they move up in weight. You can't just stand in front of bigger fighters and try to pick them off without foot movement.

Chris Byrd just laughed at you!

He's the 1 educating you. He's right dumbass. Marquez has NO offense. Whenever he tries to go on the attack against even no namers he gets ****ed up. He needed a Pacquiao who would bring the offensive aggression to play into his strength. And even then he got owned at his own game gettin knocked flat by a counter. What a 1dimensional fighter. What exposure

Who gets hit more offensive boxers or defensive boxers?

agreed.

i just chose the wrong words to explain it.

that counterpunched he used to kd marquez was very skilled.

but you have to agree that he has good boxing skills but nothing on the level of guys that he can be compared to. when i said underskilled i was comparing him to other p4p greats who were boxing masters.

manny is a slugger. he depends on his power and speed. i think he was better when he was more wild and did less boxing to be honest with you.

but he is getting older and i guess freddie is making the change to extend his career.

That counter punch was nothing skilled it was just a boxers reaction to an opening in a fight. If it was skilled he would have used the shoulder in that punch but he didn't think it was going kd Marquez, which is why he had the other hand close to his chin, lol.

Besides being a coward/***** by rejecting offers, he's got a bad team. Who the **** cares you got 90% of his fights....he fought bums and lost to high level fighters just like JCC.

You sure talk a lot of **** about Marquez even while you kiss his ass.

don't get pissy because i don't like your man.

your man is good but he's no erik or marco.

i'm not a marquez expert but i have seen enough of his fights to make an opinion about it. my opinion he can't beat marco or erik prime vs. prime. marco would ud him and erik would tko/ko his ass.

If you first seen Marquez when he first fought Pacquiao then your opinion of Marquez is limited! And it shows.

[Left Hook Tua]

i saw parts of the norwood fight. not the whole thing though.

did you think he looked good against freddie , feroz?

i know you're gonna say he should've won. you have a point if you do.

but my question is do you think he looked good?

marco and erik wouldn't have lost to john either.

[Silencers]

as long as they have their dad's chin and toughness......they'll do okay. their old mad wasn't polished either but he wore guys down.

I think Chavez Sr. had better natural skills but chin and toughness can get a fighter quite a long way in boxing, look at Baldomir.