Nutrionists: Are they good for boxing?

[Boofdatruth]

I seriously don't know how I can make this more clear...

If a boxer is losing a bunch of weight in any time span, how is eating healthy not wiser than eating poorly to do so?

People play their own nutritionist all the time. When a boxer feels he has to suddenly crash diet and lose a **** ton of weight in a hurry so he chooses to only eat a tiny bit of food each day... how does he choose that food? If he's smart he'd take a food that he knows to be healthy, not a pound of chocolate.

The only difference is a nutritionist isn't guessing what is healthy. They know and recommend what would be best to reach your goal, whatever that may be. But they're not miracle workers. If you give them a goal that is not realistic they you can't expect results that are life changing or miraculous.

You aren't understanding my point because you are gloating in your own point. For 6-8 weeks, a nutritionist can get the boxer down to his fighting weight. My point is that they are not beneficial to boxers having to lose weight in 6-8 weeks because they are pretty much left without energy. Is this clear enough!!???. You also said i ate bigmacs to help me win a fight. What the !@#@ is that about. You can read right? lol

[Dirt E Gomez]

You aren't understanding my point because you are gloating in your own point. For 6-8 weeks, a nutritionist can get the boxer down to his fighting weight. My point is that they are not beneficial to boxers having to lose weight in 6-8 weeks because they are pretty much left without energy. Is this clear enough!!???. You also said i ate bigmacs to help me win a fight. What the !@#@ is that about. You can read right? lol

I do not think nutrionists are good for boxers losing weight.

That seems pretty loud and clear to me.

The 6-8 week argument doesn't hold any water. The body begins digestion of food within hours of consumption...therefore whatever you put in will begin to yield its benefits almost as quickly. If you have a bunch of weight to lose or only a little, a nutritionist is still better off than simply implementing a diet of your own that you hope will do the trick.

However, as I said numerous times... they aren't miracle workers. If you give them an unreasonable task you can't be shocked if the outcome isn't miraculous.

[Red_Menace]

I seriously don't know how I can make this more clear...

If a boxer is losing a bunch of weight in any time span, how is eating healthy not wiser than eating poorly to do so?

People play their own nutritionist all the time. When a boxer feels he has to suddenly crash diet and lose a **** ton of weight in a hurry so he chooses to only eat a tiny bit of food each day... how does he choose that food? If he's smart he'd take a food that he knows to be healthy, not a pound of chocolate.

The only difference is a nutritionist isn't guessing what is healthy. They know and recommend what would be best to reach your goal, whatever that may be. But they're not miracle workers. If you give them a goal that is not realistic they you can't expect results that are life changing or miraculous.

Honestly, I don't understand why anyone in this thread is arguing with you. The only time a nutritionist is bad for a fighter is if they happen to be really bad at their job, but to say categorically that nutritionists would be bad for boxers in any circumstance is insane. A nutritionist will know more about food than any boxer or boxing trainer. A nutritionist will know how to eat lean while keeping energy and muscle building protein high. Of course, if a boxer needs to cut weight very quickly the only thing a nutritionist is going to be able to do is get them to cut calories, which will probably leave the fighter a little weak. But they'd probably do a better job of it then the fighter doing it on their own, which is still beneficial. And if the fighter is in the ring and can't compete under those circumstances, then that's the fighters fault for being in the wrong weight class or falling out of shape between fights.

Sorry people, nutritionists are in NO WAY a bad thing for boxers and are greatly beneficial to ALL athletes and regular human beings. Sorry, idiots, Gomez is right. This is one of the dumbest threads I've ever seen, and the fact that Gomez has had to argue this point so long is depressing.

[Guest]

Eating big macs? lol. First off, I nor wreck said nutrionists are bad for boxing. Second, i said a bite idiot.

Honestly, I don't understand why anyone in this thread is arguing with you. The only time a nutritionist is bad for a fighter is if they happen to be really bad at their job, but to say categorically that nutritionists would be bad for boxers in any circumstance is insane. A nutritionist will know more about food than any boxer or boxing trainer. A nutritionist will know how to eat lean while keeping energy and muscle building protein high. Of course, if a boxer needs to cut weight very quickly the only thing a nutritionist is going to be able to do is get them to cut calories, which will probably leave the fighter a little weak. But they'd probably do a better job of it then the fighter doing it on their own, which is still beneficial. And if the fighter is in the ring and can't compete under those circumstances, then that's the fighters fault for being in the wrong weight class or falling out of shape between fights.

Sorry people, nutritionists are in NO WAY a bad thing for boxers and are greatly beneficial to ALL athletes and regular human beings. Sorry, idiots, Gomez is right. This is one of the dumbest threads I've ever seen, and the fact that Gomez has had to argue this point so long is depressing.

No arguement a nutritionist is bad for a fighter period. When they are brought in ala Jones, Tarver, Vargas, Toney, and Miranda were bad though.
That's all.

[Boofdatruth]

That seems pretty loud and clear to me.

The 6-8 week argument doesn't hold any water. The body begins digestion of food within hours of consumption...


What the !@#$ lol..Yeah, maybe you need a remedial class or something because if you read my thread starter you would see that i never said anything bad about a nutrionists. You tried to go back to see if i said anything bad about a nutritionist, along with checking every last post i wrote, and you couldn't find me exlaxing on a nutritionist. So it isn't pretty LOUD and CLEAR! lol. Next time rubberhead, take the time out to read my damn post instead of trying to impress everyone with your retaliatory thoughts.

[Red_Menace]

No arguement a nutritionist is bad for a fighter period. When they are brought in ala Jones, Tarver, Vargas, Toney, and Miranda were bad though.
That's all.

Ok ... how was it bad? It didn't work, but that doesn't mean it was bad. Maybe things would have been even worse without a proper nutritionist?

I'm sorry, nutritionists are not bad for boxers period, unless you hire a nutritionist that sucks at their job. In the fights you mentioned, I highly highly doubt the nutritionists were detrimental in any way, and I will suggest that they were actually beneficial despite the losses.

[Guest]

Ok ... how was it bad? It didn't work, but that doesn't mean it was bad. Maybe things would have been even worse without a proper nutritionist?

I'm sorry, nutritionists are not bad for boxers period, unless you hire a nutritionist that sucks at their job. In the fights you mentioned, I highly highly doubt the nutritionists were detrimental in any way, and I will suggest that they were actually beneficial despite the losses.

Maybe, maybe not.
We'll never know really.
It's certainly possible but I don't think Toney or Miranda benefitted in any way specifically. I can't claim it was because of that or not and these are all suggestions anyways.

[Boofdatruth]

Ok ... how was it bad? It didn't work, but that doesn't mean it was bad. Maybe things would have been even worse without a proper nutritionist?

I'm sorry, nutritionists are not bad for boxers period, unless you hire a nutritionist that sucks at their job. In the fights you mentioned, I highly highly doubt the nutritionists were detrimental in any way, and I will suggest that they were actually beneficial despite the losses.

In boxing, you need long term energy. Short term diets can not help a fighter in a long, grinding fight. Now if boxers used a nutritionist for 6 months instead of 6 weeks, they could be very beneficial. 6-8 weeks is too short a time. I never said nutritionists are bad. They get the job done, but leave the boxer short on energy. Your body needs a long time to get used to the amount of weight that is lost. Wreck brought up a great example. Roy Jones got down in weight to fight tarver. He won, but had no energy. The rematch he used a nutritionist to keep his weight down and he lost by quick ko. He used a nutritionist for the third fight, and had more time to get used to his regimin, and felt a whole lot better and lasted 12. And even then he said he lacked the energy to keep up what he was doing for all 12. Check the last 6 rounds in that fight, he had no energy.

[Boofdatruth]

Honestly, I don't understand why anyone in this thread is arguing with you. The only time a nutritionist is bad for a fighter is if they happen to be really bad at their job, but to say categorically that nutritionists would be bad for boxers in any circumstance is insane. A nutritionist will know more about food than any boxer or boxing trainer. A nutritionist will know how to eat lean while keeping energy and muscle building protein high. Of course, if a boxer needs to cut weight very quickly the only thing a nutritionist is going to be able to do is get them to cut calories, which will probably leave the fighter a little weak. But they'd probably do a better job of it then the fighter doing it on their own, which is still beneficial. And if the fighter is in the ring and can't compete under those circumstances, then that's the fighters fault for being in the wrong weight class or falling out of shape between fights.

Sorry people, nutritionists are in NO WAY a bad thing for boxers and are greatly beneficial to ALL athletes and regular human beings. Sorry, idiots, Gomez is right. This is one of the dumbest threads I've ever seen, and the fact that Gomez has had to argue this point so long is depressing.

A nutritionist will know how to eat lean while keeping energy and muscle building protein high. Of course, if a boxer needs to cut weight very quickly the only thing a nutritionist is going to be able to do is get them to cut calories, which will probably leave the fighter a little weak. But they'd probably do a better job of it then the fighter doing it on their own, which is still beneficial. And if the fighter is in the ring and can't compete under those circumstances, then that's the fighters fault for being in the wrong weight class or falling out of shape between fights.


To me, this is a contradiction and I'm not trying to be funny. Changing your diet alone regardless of how you digest food isn't beneficial to a boxer.

[βetamax]

In boxing, you need long term energy. Short term diets can not help a fighter in a long, grinding fight. Now if boxers used a nutritionist for 6 months instead of 6 weeks, they could be very beneficial. 6-8 weeks is too short a time. I never said nutritionists are bad. They get the job done, but leave the boxer short on energy. Your body needs a long time to get used to the amount of weight that is lost. Wreck brought up a great example. Roy Jones got down in weight to fight tarver. He won, but had no energy. The rematch he used a nutritionist to keep his weight down and he lost by quick ko. He used a nutritionist for the third fight, and had more time to get used to his regimin, and felt a whole lot better and lasted 12. And even then he said he lacked the energy to keep up what he was doing for all 12. Check the last 6 rounds in that fight, he had no energy.

A good nutritionist should know these things. I think that is the point a couple other people are trying to make. With that knowledge they should be able to compose a diet plan that would be more beneficial than if the fighter were to do it alone or with trainers (who aren't as qualified as a nutritionist).