Abraham knocks out Miranda in 4 means Pavlik is overrated.

[Boofdatruth]

Doesnt matter who u think is the better fighter, Pavlik clearly has teh better technique.

Abraham throws wiiiiiide looping shots and is very sloppy offensively.

He hits very hard and has good handspped.

And Pavlik has excellent defense, U rarely see him get hit flush. Pavlik will get the respect his defense deserves in teh Abraham fight, win or lose

You haven't been watching the AA i have been watching lol

[Boofdatruth]

Doesnt matter who u think is the better fighter, Pavlik clearly has teh better technique.

Abraham throws wiiiiiide looping shots and is very sloppy offensively.

He hits very hard and has good handspped.

And Pavlik has excellent defense, U rarely see him get hit flush. Pavlik will get the respect his defense deserves in teh Abraham fight, win or lose

And Pavlik has excellent defense, U rarely see him get hit flush. Pavlik will get the respect his defense deserves in teh Abraham fight, win or lose

It can't be when he loses, but if he wins, sure, he deserves respect. He has been caught by fighters in the past. AA has never been down i don't believe.

[Easy-E]

Sorry guys but its true. Abraham KO's Miranda in 4. Pavlik KO's Miranda in 7.
Pavlik KO's and gets a Unanimous Decision against Taylor isn't that impressive because Taylor looked horrible against Cory (garbage) Spinks and Kassim Ouma who has no power. Pavlik beats a no movement Lockett. I like his Ko style but his recent wins doesn't mean he is in the top 7 P4P like everybody thinks. I would love to see him prove it though against Winky, Abraham, Calzaghe, and maybe even old and wrinkled Bhop.

So you do realize that Pavlik beat up and brutally knocked out Miranda BEFORE Abraham did, correct?

[Easy-E]

Doesnt matter who u think is the better fighter, Pavlik clearly has teh better technique.

Abraham throws wiiiiiide looping shots and is very sloppy offensively.

He hits very hard and has good handspped.

And Pavlik has excellent defense, U rarely see him get hit flush. Pavlik will get the respect his defense deserves in teh Abraham fight, win or lose

I dont think Abraham is sloppy, I think he has a very tight defense and throws careful, measured shots.
Pavlik's workrate, combined with his power and technique, could create problems for AA and take him out of his game, however.

[Boofdatruth]

I dont think Abraham is sloppy, I think he has a very tight defense and throws careful, measured shots.
Pavlik's workrate, combined with his power and technique, could create problems for AA and take him out of his game, however.

I can go with that. Good post.

[Moon]

I dont think Abraham is sloppy, I think he has a very tight defense and throws careful, measured shots.
Pavlik's workrate, combined with his power and technique, could create problems for AA and take him out of his game, however.

This is another good take.

AA's extremely tight defense, is designed to take advantage of guys like Miranda, who wail away with wide shots while leaving their chin hanging out there. AA is a classic disciplined defensive fighter.

Pavlik's also a disciplined fighter who is more offensively minded and picks his shots and doesn't give his opponent a rest. Pavlik won't fall for the turtle trap that AA can spring from like he did to Miranda. Kelly has that classic lanky frame and can be in-and-out in a flash with you throwing back at air .... then Kelly's got you back in his range throwing and landing while you cover up, then he's gone again.

Pavlik's gonna' give AA fits.

[Easy-E]

This is another good take.

AA's extremely tight defense, is designed to take advantage of guys like Miranda, who wail away with wide shots while leaving their chin hanging out there. AA is a classic disciplined defensive fighter.

Pavlik's also a disciplined fighter who is more offensively minded and picks his shots and doesn't give his opponent a rest. Pavlik won't fall for the turtle trap that AA can spring from like he did to Miranda. Kelly has that classic lanky frame and can be in-and-out in a flash with you throwing back at air .... then Kelly's got you back in his range throwing and landing while you cover up, then he's gone again.

Pavlik's gonna' give AA fits.

Pavlik throws sharp, crisp, powerful punches that will do damage to Abraham even when he is in his guard.
I understand that AA did was impressive, and I am happy for him, but he is getting alot of praise and people expecting him to be the favorite and knock Pavlik out will be in for a suprise.

[-Boxzilla-]

I don't see where he has better technique. He doesn't have a big arsenal of punches. His hooks look funny, he has a basic strong 1-2, and throws good body shots. AA can throw any type of punch. He is more than a match for Pav and I expect AA to take Pav out because of his flimsy defense.

i totally disagree with this . . . pavlik has an is known for his 1-2 but he has every other punch in his arsenal as well. he has right/left hooks and a good uppercuts and does excellent body work he has good power in both hands and is suppose to be ambidextrous . . . so whats missiing from his arsenal?!?!?

also this guy says pav is overrated!?!? but still has him in his top 10 p4p . . . so he's only slightly overrated in your opinion!?!? i really haven;t seen pav as high as 2 or 3 in p4p and its all opinion anyways right . . .

[roundingace]

Took AA two fights to KO EM so technically, Kelly did it in 7 and AA did it in 16. GG.