Oddsmakers and judges vs. NSB posters

[kayjay]

The professionals are right 98% of the time. But you kids who watch boxing on mommy's HBO always come in here posting "your card" and (wrongly) predicting who will win fights. If you knew anything, you could make money on that knowledge. But you don't and you can't.

If you thought Miranda was going to beat Abraham last night (or if you thought Taylor beat Pavlik the second time, or Hopkins-Calzaghe was a close fight, etc.), you should cease to ever score or predict a fight. It prevents you from learning anything. Just look at the oddsmakers' lines, read what the pundits say (if you read Cliff Rold the other day you knew the score, pay attention to him) and WATCH.

[Easy-E]

Calzaghe v Hopkins was a very close fight, I scored it 115-112 for Joe, but many of the rounds were competitive and Joe looked unimpressive for the most part.

Also, Taylor put on a good showing in the rematch, although I expected Pavlik to win by knockout, Jermain was impressive and showed good boxing skills.

Quit hating, Kayjay.

[kayjay]

Calzaghe v Hopkins was a very close fight, I scored it 115-112 for Joe, but many of the rounds were competitive and Joe looked unimpressive for the most part.

Also, Taylor put on a good showing in the rematch, although I expected Pavlik to win by knockout, Jermain was impressive and showed good boxing skills.

Quit hating, Kayjay.

It's my way of showing love.


Taylor fought a smart fight, but it was still an easy one to score.

My point however is that all this NSB argument is a bunch of nonsense. The oddsmakers and judges do get it right most of the time. If you frequently disagree with them, then the fault lies with you (I mean the impersonal 'you', of course)

[Easy-E]

It's my way of showing love.


Taylor fought a smart fight, but it was still an easy one to score.

My point however is that all this NSB argument is a bunch of nonsense. The oddsmakers and judges do get it right most of the time. If you frequently disagree with them, then the fault lies with you (I mean the impersonal 'you', of course)

I do agree that 98% of NSB posters are clueless little children infatuated by power and bored by defense and counterpunching.

[Left2body]

Just wanna say, oddsmakers should be taken out of the equation. Oddsmakers dont predict who will win. They predict the fulcrum of public confidence on which they equalize there exposure irregardless of winner.

[BrooklynBomber]

I do agree that 98% of NSB posters are clueless little children infatuated by power and bored by defense and counterpunching.

If only they were infatuated by power, they are infatuated by muscles and flashy moves.

[BrooklynBomber]

Just wanna say, oddsmakers should be taken out of the equation. Oddsmakers dont predict who will win. They predict the fulcrum of public confidence on which they equalize there exposure irregardless of winner.

Oddsmakers make initial lines for a fight, as far as I understood.
Anyway, we need Hitman942 to comeback from his forced vacation and shed some light.

[abadger]

The professionals are right 98% of the time. But you kids who watch boxing on mommy's HBO always come in here posting "your card" and (wrongly) predicting who will win fights. If you knew anything, you could make money on that knowledge. But you don't and you can't.

If you thought Miranda was going to beat Abraham last night (or if you thought Taylor beat Pavlik the second time, or Hopkins-Calzaghe was a close fight, etc.), you should cease to ever score or predict a fight. It prevents you from learning anything. Just look at the oddsmakers' lines, read what the pundits say (if you read Cliff Rold the other day you knew the score, pay attention to him) and WATCH.

Good post. There is way, way too much "I pick that guy I saw an HBO, because I saw him on HBO" on this forum, and too much denial of reality after results go against certain posters picks.

As KayJay says, if the oddsmakers and pundits make someone a favourite there is usually a damn good reason and it would be wise to maybe think about what these reasons might be, rather than just crying "BULL****".

I knew next to nothing about Arthur Abraham before this week but i downloaded and watched every fight of his I could get and it was easy to see who should be the winner. When picking fights you really do have to know something about the boxers concerned beyond just one or two performances.

Watch boxing, it is great.

[Easy-E]

If only they were infatuated by power, they are infatuated by muscles and flashy moves.

True, and the make comments like "Berto has all the skills Mayweather has"
"Jeff Lacy TKO Joe Calzaghe 1!" and "Miranda will break his jaw again!"

[RAESAAD]

I agree with you as a whole and on the Hops/Cal and Taylor/Pavlik II fronts but Miranda clearly won their first fight and had a shot at winning the fight last night.....Until it reeked that his chin will never be the same after what Pavlik did to him. No excuses just saying he took those shots the first time he and Abraham fought but couldn't this time around. It was more of the same leading up to the KO though. Miranda won 2 of the 1st 3 rounds with his non stop aggression.