Kelly Pavlik vs Arthur Abraham... Who wins?

[roundingace]

Also, just to confirm my theory - take a look at the poll as to how many pick AA by decision. Enough said.

[Mike Tyson77]

Also, just to confirm my theory - take a look at the poll as to how many pick AA by decision. Enough said.

that's because kelly wont make it to the final bell, he will get counted out.

[Dirt E Gomez]

Also, just to confirm my theory - take a look at the poll as to how many pick AA by decision. Enough said.

So because nobody has picked the least probable outcome that somehow means your "theory" is correct? What the **** are you smoking?

I haven't once suggested that Pavlik wouldn't win a decision if it went to the cards.... that's a very probable outcome given AA's unwillingness to throw punches and Pavlik's reach to keep him on the outside to throw even less. However, if you think the way to predict the outcome of the fight is to simply remove variables to fit the answer you like then you'll be in for a surprise when you get called out on it a lot.

Ifs and buts don't get you very far... well, not with the people who aren't ******s at least.

[roundingace]

that's because kelly wont make it to the final bell, he will get counted out.

Witty comeback for sure. Just confrims the only chance AA has, is the punchers chance. He will either get picked apart at a comfortable distance for Kelly and win easily on points - or get into a slugfest which, as I said earlier, Kelly wins 8/10 times vs. a guy like AA. Besides Mirandas one shot he took that people like to hold onto from Miranda, when has AA's chin ever been tested? Miranda landed some absolute BOMBS on Kelly and alot of you guys responding here said you thought Miranda had the hardest punch in the MW division - then took everything JT had in his tank, shot back up to KO him in 7. I think you guys need to stop relishing this KO tonight because afterall, he was fighting Miranda. (Which is pretty much the equal to Pavlik/Lockett)

[Mike Tyson77]

Witty comeback for sure. Just confrims the only chance AA has, is the punchers chance. He will either get picked apart at a comfortable distance for Kelly and win easily on points - or get into a slugfest which, as I said earlier, Kelly wins 8/10 times vs. a guy like AA. Besides Mirandas one shot he took that people like to hold onto from Miranda, when has AA's chin ever been tested? Miranda landed some absolute BOMBS on Kelly and alot of you guys responding here said you thought Miranda had the hardest punch in the MW division - then took everything JT had in his tank, shot back up to KO him in 7. I think you guys need to stop relishing this KO tonight because afterall, he was fighting Miranda. (Which is pretty much the equal to Pavlik/Lockett)

This is the same horse**** the miranda fans where spewing! Look what happened their!

[roundingace]

So because nobody has picked the least probable outcome that somehow means your "theory" is correct? What the **** are you smoking?

I haven't once suggested that Pavlik wouldn't win a decision if it went to the cards.... that's a very probable outcome given AA's unwillingness to throw punches and Pavlik's reach to keep him on the outside to throw even less. However, if you think the way to predict the outcome of the fight is to simply remove variables to fit the answer you like then you'll be in for a surprise when you get called out on it a lot.

Ifs and buts don't get you very far... well, not with the people who aren't ******s at least.

The variables are very clear - AA= defensive with one punch power
KP= ^^^^ plus he can box = GG

[roundingace]

This is the same horse**** the miranda fans where spewing! Look what happened their!

Kelly is just a better all around boxer/fighter/puncher. I don't care what you guys THINK, the facts are there to see for all.

[Dirt E Gomez]

The variables are very clear - AA= defensive with one punch power
KP= ^^^^ plus he can box = GG

Your algebra skills are on par with your boxing knowledge.

Go away.

[Mike Tyson77]

Kelly is just a better all around boxer/fighter/puncher. I don't care what you guys THINK, the facts are there to see for all.

Abraham has better skills than Kelly.

[Njord777]

I know every fight is a learning experience and fighters grow; but I've seen Pavlik down in footage I've watched before the Taylor fight. McKart, for instance, I'm pretty sure had a flash KD against Pavlik. There are some flaws to exploit there. I'm just not sold on all his mechanics. The guy definitely has strengths...but I think Abraham is possibly better fundamentally and can KO Pavlik if he gets too sloppy.