The real winner in Pavlik vs. Taylor I

[MoneyMay22]

He didn't get his ass whooped in the second fight. I thought it was really close, actually.

Who cares if he is white, the better man won.

its just embarrasing man, taylor got beatdown by a guy that looks like a skinhead neo **** from american history x, he let me down, thats all.

[Allucard]

Pavlik is pure class man, he's like Germany playing soccer, he looks very simple, but IS extremely effective.

[Allucard]

its just embarrasing man, taylor got beatdown by a guy that looks like a skinhead neo **** from american history x, he let me down, thats all.

Pavlik isn't a **** and he is a very good fighter, not your average white guy with a padded record straight out of Europe to fight old guys. Give him some respect, i was with Taylor too but Kelly is just the better man of those two. I must say he is also quite a bit bigger than Taylor.

The real problem with Taylor is his weight. He can't make a good weight. Ideally he should step down in weight so he can meet smaller guys or guys exactly his size. He's not the strongest dude.

[GodOfWarII]

A ref would have been ******ed to stop the fight early like that, Pavlik was hurt of course but you could tell that he wasn't hurt to the point where you needed to throw in the towel. They stop fights way too early now adays, I like the ref who stopped Pavlik/Miranda fight because he gave Miranda every opportunity to come back.

[fightingfigs]

I dont think so I saw Kelly get up without showing any real signs of being REALLY hurt.

[daggum]

i dont think refs should stop fights when behind the head punches make you stumble across the ring like a drunken sailor, although it was funny.

[dstew]

The real problem with Taylor is his weight. He can't make a good weight. Ideally he should step down in weight so he can meet smaller guys or guys exactly his size. He's not the strongest dude.

Taylor could probably dominate at 154, but there aren't as many good fights for him there. Plus at a beefy 6'0", he'd have to change his entire physique to make weight.

You may be onto something though... it could really benefit him to go for a leaner look, adding more cardio to his training regimen to slim down and build more stamina. He's already got great speed, and he'd probably be a strong guy at 154. But you're talking about a guy who walks around at 180-190... he'd have to drop a ton of weight. Too much to be healthy.

[Danny Gunz]

A whole lot of fights now a days are stopped if someone is in the same condition as pavlik, I just get pissed cause it seems like refs jump in way too early.