what is wrong with calling certain fighters cowards??

[Vasyl’s dad]

So if you or your friends had to fight Floyd Mayweather or Roy Jones, it wouldn't be no big deal? Fighting your buddies in a parking lot isn't going to going to prepare you for that at all. Nowhere near the level of danger as fighting guys like that.

What does me having to fight either one have to do with anything? Lets stay on topic here and not detract from it.

This is a discussion on whether or not its ok to call boxers "coward". I've stated my reasons why I believe so and you can't refute it other than to ask for a scenario that would never happen?

Try and refute my points instead of bringing up illogical meetings.

This isn't a pros vs joes comparison, its about whether some people feel its within their rights to call the pros cowards for their actions or lack of when it comes to certain fighters. All I've said is that it isn't necessary to have had in ring experience to say you've been in a fight. I understand most people here are fans of the sport and put boxers on pedestals, but that doesn't mean they have more bravery or courage than the average joe. Do I think boxers are cowards? No, but there are some who act cowardly in certain instances and will be called on it. These cats don't pay my bills, I help pay theirs. With that said, I have the right to critique any fighter I've paid to see if they aren't performing up to my dollar standards.

[Vasyl’s dad]

I nominate this post and poster as "fake tough guy" of the year award.

I don't see why. I haven't said anything remotely acting as a tough guy. I've simply stated my opinion and have given reasons why. You've had an opportunity to refute it and this is the best you can come up with?

[Boofdatruth]

Exactly junior. There are rules in a ring. Streetfights have no rules and you have no idea who your opponent is, or what hes capable of accomplishing. Just because a streetfight happens doesn't mean the combatants aren't skilled in some type of fighting.

An amateur fighter is trained to hit you too, but I don't see what difference being a pro makes.


You calling me a coward over the internet, how ironic.

What makes you think a boxer is going to fight you under boxing rules in the street?

[Boofdatruth]

What does me having to fight either one have to do with anything? Lets stay on topic here and not detract from it.

This is a discussion on whether or not its ok to call boxers "coward". I've stated my reasons why I believe so and you can't refute it other than to ask for a scenario that would never happen?

Try and refute my points instead of bringing up illogical meetings.

This isn't a pros vs joes comparison, its about whether some people feel its within their rights to call the pros cowards for their actions or lack of when it comes to certain fighters. All I've said is that it isn't necessary to have had in ring experience to say you've been in a fight. I understand most people here are fans of the sport and put boxers on pedestals, but that doesn't mean they have more bravery or courage than the average joe. Do I think boxers are cowards? No, but there are some who act cowardly in certain instances and will be called on it. These cats don't pay my bills, I help pay theirs. With that said, I have the right to critique any fighter I've paid to see if they aren't performing up to my dollar standards.

Man, you sound ******. This was too ****** to respond to. Legally you do have the right to call a fighter a coward. You do that. Nobody cares. True ffight ans know what a coward is.

[Mr. Ryan]

Bottom line is this, get in there and fight a guy who has had time to prepare to fight you, who has been training to kick your ass for 20 years in a specialized facility, obsessing over throwing every kind of imaginable combination at speeds to quick you can't see the punches coming with the force of an anvil behind them.

If you can do that, then you have the right to call a guy who puts in an honest's work every time he fights, trying to overcome his own personal shortcomings as a pugilist with his cunning and abilities, a coward.

If you're fighting for nothing, then what are you fighting for?

[Vasyl’s dad]

How many of your buddies are preparing to put in the work to fight you? Trust, it's not the same thing, getting in the ring and fighting with heavy, weighted gloves fighting against your own stamina and pain threshold against skilled guys who are trained to maim you with their fists.
There is a reason they are called professionals, they are trained and certified to do what they do. Thats the opposite of street-fighting, where anyone with access to a parking lot can do.


The underlined...I couldn't have said it better myself. lol

They are called professionals because they get paid. Me and my "buddies" have fought eachother for fun, fought people we didn't know simply because we didn't get along with, for free, with no gloves.

You just can't explain your reasoning other than that they are called professionals.

The underlined, you couldn't have said it better yourself because you don't have those types of capabilities.

[Mr. Ryan]

Pelon: An amateur fighter is trained to hit you too, but I don't see what difference being a pro makes.

Thats right, you wouldn't. Because you haven't been an amateur or a professional.

[Boofdatruth]

I don't see why. I haven't said anything remotely acting as a tough guy. I've simply stated my opinion and have given reasons why. You've had an opportunity to refute it and this is the best you can come up with?

Yeah, because legally you can call a fighter a coward. You haven't said anything to refute anyway. You got a mouth. Look, Pavlik is a coward. Floyd is a coward. All BOXERS are cowards. Who can't do that? Why do you have a couple of posters arguing with you then? Because they know.

[Vasyl’s dad]

Bottom line is this, get in there and fight a guy who has had time to prepare to fight you, who has been training to kick your ass for 20 years in a specialized facility, obsessing over throwing every kind of imaginable combination at speeds to quick you can't see the punches coming with the force of an anvil behind them.

If you can do that, then you have the right to call a guy who puts in an honest's work every time he fights, trying to overcome his own personal shortcomings as a pugilist with his cunning and abilities, a coward.

If you're fighting for nothing, then what are you fighting for?

Again, thats not what this thread is about.

Try staying on topic and coming with a reasonable argument as to why I'm wrong other than saying a pro boxer can kick someones ass who doesn't train.


Again, "what is wrong with calling certain fighters cowards".

You're not saying anything regarding that, rather, you're trying to pit me against a trained professional because you don't have much to say in response to the opinion I've stated.

[Boofdatruth]

They are called professionals because they get paid. Me and my "buddies" have fought eachother for fun, fought people we didn't know simply because we didn't get along with, for free, with no gloves.

You just can't explain your reasoning other than that they are called professionals.

The underlined, you couldn't have said it better yourself because you don't have those types of capabilities.

When you fought your buddies lol...you were able to rest, and you were able to stop when you wanted, and you had no boxing skill. In boxing, you can't do that. And trust me, i've experienced those capabilities.