What have Cotto and Margs done at WW that scares Floyd???

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  • MANGLER
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    #41
    PBF will never fight Margarito. If Cotto wins, he might fight him when he comes back. That's it. I always say let the man retire if he wants to be retired. There's other **** to talk about. PBF ain't active right now so don't pay his ass any more attention.

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    • Brandish
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      #42
      PBF will never fight Margarito
      why would he need to is margarito going to the HOF

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        #43
        Originally posted by Brandish
        why would he need to is margarito going to the HOF
        I meant if Marg beats Cotto and establishes himself as the top WW. PBF stans live to justify his avoidance of Cotto and Marg.

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        • Bad_Barracuda
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          #44
          Originally posted by mangler
          I meant if Marg beats Cotto and establishes himself as the top WW. PBF stans live to justify his avoidance of Cotto and Marg.
          Cotto can't even say the word Mayweather...much less avoid a right hand.

          Marge loses everytime he steps up..unless he's fighting Cintron..the ONLY Welterweight slower than he is.

          Had he fought Cotto instead of Hatton you busted haters would be saying he's afraid of Ricky.

          Cotto and tony are a counterpuncher's wet-dream..you can't miss either of them.

          They are NOTHING for Floyd to be afraid of.

          The Oscar that Floyd fought at 154 would shred both Cotto and Tony.

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            #45
            I meant if Marg beats Cotto and establishes himself as the top WW. PBF stans live to justify his avoidance of Cotto and Marg.
            think about that part of your statement baldomir earned the top spot at 147 by beating judah yet people like you say floyd beat a bum. which one is it. did baldomir earn his top spot at 147 just like tony and cotto are doing now.

            I love destroying hypocrites

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              #46
              Originally posted by VIVA MEXICO!!
              cottos win over mosley is better than anything mayweather did his entire career.
              You really are a clueless moron.

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              • baCCaT
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                #47
                Originally posted by RL_GMA
                There's a difference between being afraid of someone literally and being afraid to fight someone that could possibly snatch your "0" when that is what you use as the anchor of your career.

                Floyd doesn't fear Cotto or Margarito, but I think its safe to say at this point in his career that his team have chosen the right fights for him to look good in (as most managers do). But there comes a point where you're eventually going to have to fight the very best fighters in your division (especially someone who is undefeated and regarded the #2 Welterweight next to Floyd).

                Floyd is a great fighter and no one in their right mind should ever question that,
                but i think his fans make him bigger than life itself when in actuality he still hasn't had his defining fight as Leonard, Hagler, Hearns, etc did in their time.


                thread should be closed

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                • PRp4p757
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by boofdatruth
                  No, he has a better resume thant cotto period, and he has fought top 10 pfp opponents while cotto has faced NONE!!!
                  I now know that you must only follow floyd and you are not a true boxing fan. Only a completely biased mayweather **** rider will come out of their mouth with such verbal incompetence. first of all not only has cotto beaten more p4p top 10 welterweights then floyd he beat 3 in one year(quintana,judah,mosley) .i could stop there and that would explain why cotto is on par with floyd but wait, theres more. miguel cotto is touted by some as one of the best amatuer boxers to come out of puerto rico, winning multiple puerto rico national titles and competeting in the pan am and olymplics. being held that high in regard comming from a country with such high boxing standards is quite an achievement in its self. also as a junior welterweight cotto fought many opponents that floyd also fought, however cottos victories were more impressive and decisive. with that being said I AM A COTTO FAN, but I AM FIRST AND FOREMOST A FAN OF THE SPORT. i will take nothing from floyd because he is a great fighter but he is not the greatest of all time like some of his childish fans claim he is, so much in fact that even if cotto beat him i would still not considered cotto to be the greatest. i can really tell the difference between the boys and the men who have really been in the ring by such comments as "if mayweather beats so and so people will just say he needs to beat this guy". of course because in boxing you have to beat the best to be the best. that is what cotto is doing and that is what floyd isnt doing, BOTTOMLINE.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Brandish
                    I hope I answered your question
                    owned? LOL ur kidding right? Just because you skewed, propped it up, and tried your best to slant Floyd's campaign at 147 to look sterling doesn't mean it's without critique

                    now let's go through this and re-examine this. My retorts are in bold

                    Mitchell--former WBA jr welterweight champion (defended his wba title for 3 years) who had NO BUSINESS campaigning at 147, is one fight removed from his thorough ass whipping at the hands of Kostya, last fight before Floyd he struggles with the mediocre Chris Smith, looks ordinary against Jose Luis Cruz who literally sucks, and then gets beat even worse at the hands of PWill than Floyd did

                    Judah--former undisputed linear welterweight champion (one loss removed from undisputed title). And what a bad loss it was. Baldomir should send his first born to Judah for creating the feel good hype around the hopeless journeyman Baldomir is. And while Judah looked good for about 5-6 rounds he struggled mightly trying to keep it all together. Judah is a head case plain and simple and if he cant get you out early then he folds it up.

                    Baldomir--former WBC/ring/lineal champion (was cirrent champion when floyd beat him). Ur kidding right? I know I know he is a champion blah blah blah. Let's though take a closer look at what Baldomir really was. The only thing I really need to say about how good of a fighter Baldy really was is he drew with Jose Luis Cruz, the same guy Shotbay Mitchell looked ordinary with! Oh yeah he beatdown Gatti (which I will get to later) and the absent minded Judah. Answer me this without any reference to any belt or whatnot. IS CARLOS BALDOMIR A GOOD FIGHTER? Ask most of the knowledge unbiased fans here and they will say no. He was a feel good story nothing more. His 15 minutes of fame are over and now he can go struggle with Luciano Perez....oh wait he JUST did that. Maybe he can be the sparring partner extraordinaire.....LIKE HE WAS BEFORE HIS 15 MIN OF FAME

                    Hatton--former IBF,WBA/Ring/Lineal jr. welterweight champion(was current champion when floyd beat him) AT 140!!! cmon man spin it in any shape or form you want but now two fights at 147 tells me Hatton has no business at 147. Mind you THIS is probably Floyd's best win at 147 and even then there are questions about it.

                    so his best wins at 147

                    Hatton
                    Judah
                    Baldomir
                    Mitchell

                    head and shoulders above

                    Quintana--fomer wbo champion and still better than oh lets say Mitchell since he won his title...AT THE WEIGHT WE ARE DISCUSSING and isn't shot like Mitchell.

                    Urkal--get the **** out of here. Granted he sucks balls.

                    Judah--former undisputed linear welterweight champion (a year ago hadn't had a victory in 2 years). Wait so NOW you dismiss Judah when just above you praised him? buahahaha you're a clown and you contradict yourself because on one hand you applaud Floyd for beating the former linear champion yet when it applies to Cotto "uh well he hadnt won in two years" YET one of those losses is at the hands of Floyd. So what is it? And also, Cotto beat the living **** out of Judah WORSE THAN FLOYD. He grinded Judah to a bloody pulp, outboxed him, out slugged him and owned him. Floyd? short of Judah's mental letdown he was having some issues with him. Check goes to Cotto on that unless you think Mayweather ruined Judah for Cotto in that case buahahahahahahaha even more!

                    Mosley--former wbc/ring/lineal welterweight champion (8 years ago) YET beats a guy (Collazo) far more thoroughly than Mayweather's best win at 147. He sonned Luis from the 3rd round on. Gives Cotto all he can handle. Is the 2nd ranked welterweight by Ring. Can't believe I am defending Mosley as a good win. In fact, Cotto's victory over Shane ****s all over Mayweather's work since 135.

                    Gomez--get the **** out of here. Funny you should say that but didn't he beat the **** out of Gatti the same way the LINEAL journeyman Baldomir did? I mean heck shouldn't that at least merit SOMETHING considering you seem hellbent on proving me wrong by pointing some lineage crap when it's plain as day Baldomir isn't on any elite level. If anything I would say he is on par or a notch above Gomez at best

                    so Cotto's best wins

                    Mosley- which ****s all over Floyd's best win of Hatton
                    Quintana- the way he handled Indio and the way Indio came back to win a title against a good PWill I would say this is better than Floyd's win over Judah
                    Judah- beats him more soundly than Floyd did
                    Gomez- in terms of skills on par with Baldomir
                    Urkal- Urkass
                    so even if you favor Floyd it's not by much or at least not enough for fans to say Cotto is undeserving or Cotto is not on his level or any of the crap your ilk spew.

                    anything else Mr I Own People By Stating the Obvious?

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                    • mellow_mood
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                      #50
                      Floyd is not afraid of either cotto or marg. but deeply inside im pretty sure HE KNOWS..that if there are some at this moment that can beat him.. are the 2 of them with cotto having more chance because hes more skilled that tony... soo..

                      i dont think he's afraid.. but you are doing the same thing that you claim other ppl do to floyd... discredit a fighters accomplishments. anyway... answering your thread question.. they have done nothing just to put great performances on their careers..

                      the statement that floyd uses that no one is worthy to fight him... that sucks man... it just sucks .... como el viejo refran.... el que calla otorga....... if he doesnt prove that he is not scared to any of them... (steppin in the ring) he will get called much worst things... so get use 2 it..

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