What have Cotto and Margs done at WW that scares Floyd???

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  • Sin City
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    #31
    Originally posted by boofdatruth
    Get the hell out of here lol...Cleaned out the division????...lol He has not even fought anyone noteworthy at welter who could compete with him or had a real chance to win. Don't ever use quintana as a good win anymore. You guys switch up whether you think he was good. Now his record at welter stare you cotto fans in the face. lol Quintana was like cintron. Scared of cotto. Who has Cotto beaten that was prime and willing to fight at welter that scares floyd? Nobody that's who. This is cotto's first big fight with a prime guy at welte in margs.
    who do you want him to fight @ welter then and who is out there??

    he already beat the number two and three ranked welters as well as the 6th.

    And Quintana is a great win.. why do you think Williams lost to Quintana in the first?
    Quintana gave him mad trouble!

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    • El_Dueno
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      #32
      Caused Pain and facial make-overs. What had FLoyd done to scare Marg or Cotto? Speed? Zab, Mosley as fast or faster... What? Elbows and throwing counterfeit 100s in clubs?

      Be real you overnight Floyd fan. Floyd is a fraud. Most grown ups see through his little ****** routine. Fear... Blowfish mentality.

      Hey, he didn't scare them into retirement.

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      • El_Dueno
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        #33
        Originally posted by boofdatruth
        Floyd wanted nothing to do with Arum. Nothing. Can you understand this? It is why he bought out his contract. Floyd fought Baldy for the undisputed welterweight title. He was going to fight judah, but judah lost TO baldy. When baldy was stripped, cintron and cotto fought for vacant titles. Baldy kept the wbc title which floyd has now. Kapish.

        THis proves Floyd is a woman trapped in a welterweights body. What kind of GROWN man, is capable of such feminine grudges against an old man????


        It's an excuse kid. He wanted NO part of ANY real test. He was going to **** his fans royally by treating them to rematches for the next 10 yrs with Hatton and DLH!!!!!


        Give it up, the boxing world is already more interesting with that teenage mentality out of the boxing picture. Floyd is a typical.... you know the rest.

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        • letsgobrady
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          #34
          Originally posted by boofdatruth
          I'll break it down for you. None of the welters has done anything. Floyd won the undisputed welter title. Cotto fought for a vacant title. Margs had the wbo title. Cintron fought for a vacant title, and so did williams. When these guys get close to doing anything at weltyer, i'll let you know. You guys act as if these guys have done so much more than floyd at welter, and none of them have done anything. That is my point.
          floyds best wins were all below 140.cotto's resume at 140 and 147 is better than floyds at 140and 147

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          • Boofdatruth
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            #35
            Originally posted by Eaner0919
            understood my man but at the same time while your title says what have Cotto and Margarito done to scare Floyd or that Floyd is a coward (which is bull**** Floyd isnt afraid to fight) you do go into how their resumes suck correct?

            This is why I went that route because you seem to question their deservance by bring into account their resume when in reality Floyd's resume at 147 could also be questioned.

            so if you are simply saying Floyd isnt scared I agree with you. However when you bring into question the resume of Cotto and how it supposedly is devoid of quality the same could also be said of Mayweather's in the two divisions Cotto has fought at 140 and 147
            My friend, you have seen the threads of many fans calling floyd a coward. So i aksed who have these guys thought that scares floyd. They say floyd turned down 8 mil to fight margs. That offer was bogus as arum did not even discuss this with floyd, nor was floyd guaranteed to make 8 mil. A promotor acts in the best interest of his fighter and dicusses these details. Ask cotto. Floyd has said he heard the offer made only public, and this is around a time when floyd contract is only a bit nore than what Arum offered. I think his contract was 12 mil from hbo. Remember the slave contract quote. None of these welters has separated themselves from the pack, and floyd isn't scared of anyone which was my point all along.

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            • Boofdatruth
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              #36
              Originally posted by letsgobrady
              floyds best wins were all below 140.cotto's resume at 140 and 147 is better than floyds at 140and 147
              Floyd was a fighter moving up in weight. His natural weight class was 130. So his resume at either JW or WW weight will not be as good or better than other boxers who started AT jw or WW if those fighters have had full carers at those weights.

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              • Boofdatruth
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                #37
                Originally posted by boofdatruth
                My friend, you have seen the threads of many fans calling floyd a coward. So i aksed who have these guys thought that scares floyd. They say floyd turned down 8 mil to fight margs. That offer was bogus as arum did not even discuss this with floyd, nor was floyd guaranteed to make 8 mil. A promotor acts in the best interest of his fighter and dicusses these details. Ask cotto. Floyd has said he heard the offer made only public, and this is around a time when floyd contract is only a bit nore than what Arum offered. I think his contract was 12 mil from hbo. Remember the slave contract quote. None of these welters has separated themselves from the pack, and floyd isn't scared of anyone which was my point all along.
                Excuse my misspellings and letters missed lo. My bad fellas, but you get what im saying.

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                • RL_GMA
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                  #38
                  There's a difference between being afraid of someone literally and being afraid to fight someone that could possibly snatch your "0" when that is what you use as the anchor of your career.

                  Floyd doesn't fear Cotto or Margarito, but I think its safe to say at this point in his career that his team have chosen the right fights for him to look good in (as most managers do). But there comes a point where you're eventually going to have to fight the very best fighters in your division (especially someone who is undefeated and regarded the #2 Welterweight next to Floyd).

                  Floyd is a great fighter and no one in their right mind should ever question that,
                  but i think his fans make him bigger than life itself when in actuality he still hasn't had his defining fight as Leonard, Hagler, Hearns, etc did in their time.

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                  • Allucard
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by boofdatruth
                    Who in the hell have cotto or margs beaten that was in their primes that were good? You talk all this crap about who Floyd hasn't beaten at welter, yet your guys have done nothing at junior welte, welter or super welter. As we get closer to a unified champ at welter, there is still a ways to go.

                    You say Floyd hasn't fought any since who ever...lol Floyd has faced guys ranked in the top 10 pfp. Now I know you guys try to belittle the pfp rankings for your own argument, but the list exists. Name prime fighters who were good that either man beat? Name any pfp ranked fighters that either beat. Floyd is of a different pedigree. Wait, those prime fighters, i'll list them for you since you want to belittle floyd for not fighting your man!

                    Cotto:

                    quintana...is he good now, or are you back to calling him horse $#@@!

                    judah: a good win, but didn't floyd beat him?

                    That's about it. He is fighting margs, so he will get credit if he wins.

                    Margs:

                    cintron...he was scared of margs.

                    Wiliams: glad margs took this fight, but he lost

                    santos: margs did well, but didn't win

                    I'm picking margs to stop cotto late. Cotto can win, and who ever wins this fight will get my respect. But these guys right now don't get my full respect. If you fanatics give floyd no respect, why in the hell should i give those 2 more respect when you give floyd none? Get your fake ass, weak arguments out of here lol.
                    This is the kind of thing both Cotto's and Margarito's fans would say to discredit Floyd Mayweather's win, had he fought either of them. Do you have any doubts about it? I bet on it.

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                    • Brandish
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                      #40
                      Originally Posted by Eaner0919
                      if you are talking to me sure

                      but again why are

                      Mitchell--former WBA jr welterweight champion (defended his wba title for 3 years)
                      Judah--former undisputed linear welterweight champion (one loss removed from undisputed title)
                      Baldomir--former WBC/ring/lineal champion (was cirrent champion when floyd beat him)
                      Hatton--former IBF,WBA/Ring/Lineal jr. welterweight champion(was current champion when floyd beat him)

                      head and shoulders above

                      Quintana--fomer wbo champion
                      Urkal--get the **** out of here
                      Judah--former undisputed linear welterweight champion (a year ago hadn't had a victory in 2 years)
                      Mosley--former wbc/ring/lineal welterweight champion (8 years ago)
                      Gomez--get the **** out of here
                      I hope I answered your question

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