Should Southpaws Be Rated Lower Then Orthodox?

[Sweet Pea 50]

But if you were a paw, you could beat your bigger brother up all day?

READ what I'm typing here.
If you are a professional boxer, fighting for money, (the purse fighting idea should be back into play, but whatever) you are going to use whatever advantage you have.
For instance, check out Corrales vs Mayweather. Just because I can.
Now, Corrales had a height, size, and even a power advantage, (or some thought) in that fight.
What did Mayweather do? Well, pretty much negate all that. And beat the **** out of the much bigger guy.
By doing what?
Being smarter, and a better boxer.
Southpaws have a certain advantage. But a pro boxer NOT preparing for that, being orthodox, is NO excuse. It's called training.

Southpaws being ranked lower? Sorry, man. Don't see it. And wouldn't want to.

[DLT]

But if you were a paw, you could beat your bigger brother up all day?

READ what I'm typing here.
If you are a professional boxer, fighting for money, (the purse fighting idea should be back into play, but whatever) you are going to use whatever advantage you have.
For instance, check out Corrales vs Mayweather. Just because I can.
Now, Corrales had a height, size, and even a power advantage, (or some thought) in that fight.
What did Mayweather do? Well, pretty much negate all that. And beat the **** out of the much bigger guy.
By doing what?
Being smarter, and a better boxer.
Southpaws have a certain advantage. But a pro boxer NOT preparing for that, being orthodox, is NO excuse. It's called training.

Southpaws being ranked lower? Sorry, man. Don't see it. And wouldn't want to.

thats still apples & oranges. Foreman even use to talk about it all the time whenever there was a matchup like Chico-Floyd. Jim would ask George does he think Chico has the advantage with his size but George said they both have equal advantages because Chico is taller & bigger but Floyd is much faster so it cancels eachother out. One of the main guys Im talking about in terms of size is Floyd. Chico had the size but it didnt matter much because they were both in there 1st division so Floyd can handle himself with anyone there. If you fast foward to Floyd at WW then its difference. He's still certainly capable of winning because he is that talented but dont tell me that the size doesnt matter at that weight when Floyd is in his 4th division and hardly gains a pound after the weigh-in and those other guys are in there 1st division and gain like 15 pounds. it definatly matters. If it didnt then Floyd would kill them because he's clearly a much much better fighter then a guy like Margarito but he could possibly lose to him just because of the natural size advantage

[DLT]

also guys, you have to understand what Im saying. Im not saying that you should take all southpaws off the P4P list. That would be so ******. Im just saying if you compare a guy like Floyd vs Sweet Pea then Im going to give Floyd some extra credit because he did his stuff as a righty while I think Pea had it a little easier fighting guys who hardly ever fought Southpaws. If you tell me to compare Pac to Duran at a certain weight them Im going to take some credit away from Pac because I just think he had it a little easier being a southpaw. I think Calzaghe being a southpaw has it easier then a guy like Hopkins. The same with Winky and so on. There southpaw stance gives guys hell in itself

[shadeyfizzle]

You're still not internalizing what we are saying. Paws may have the luxury of staying the same but take longer to learn in the development stage because they have to make mirror images of everything in their heads. Spend some time in a ring and you'll see 1sthand there is no magic or advantage in being a paw. No magic punches they can throw that'll get through your D just because they're a paw. If you get knocked silly its because theyre the better man that particular day.

[shadeyfizzle]

also guys, you have to understand what Im saying. Im not saying that you should take all southpaws off the P4P list. That would be so ******. Im just saying if you compare a guy like Floyd vs Sweet Pea then Im going to give Floyd some extra credit because he did his stuff as a righty while I think Pea had it a little easier fighting guys who hardly ever fought Southpaws. If you tell me to compare Pac to Duran at a certain weight them Im going to take some credit away from Pac because I just think he had it a little easier being a southpaw. I think Calzaghe being a southpaw has it easier then a guy like Hopkins. The same with Winky and so on. There southpaw stance gives guys hell in itself

Whats ****** is your notion that lefties have an easier time than righties. Are you going to take credit from Hagler too because he was a southpaw?? The man was a natural righty that converted to southpaw. Would you give Delahoya extra credit for being a natural lefty turned righty??

[Silencers]

I don't think they should at all, boxing has different styles, it's part of what makes it so beautiful to watch, boxing southpaw is a different style.

[DLT]

Whats ****** is your notion that lefties have an easier time than righties. Are you going to take credit from Hagler too because he was a southpaw?? The man was a natural righty that converted to southpaw. Would you give Delahoya extra credit for being a natural lefty turned righty??

again, its the stance. Oscar or Cotto's stuff mean nothing to me. Its the stance. Nothing is going to be a 100%. Obviously there are some super great fighters that will be an exception to the rule and are going to be great no matter what but I still think overall its an advantage. I do think the fact that Hagler was a Southpaw absolutely helped him. Does that mean he goes from being a legend to being a bum? Hell no but if there was another Hagler clone who was a righty and accomplished the exact same things then I would think what he did was more special. I think if Zab were not a lefty then Floyd takes him out in that fight.

Im an example my ownself. I am a right hander who fights as a southpaw with a style exactly like Tyson's but I can box too. I just cant believe that you guys think that it makes no difference at all. If you admit that it makes a difference then you have to say that Im right. I love Sweet Pea to death and think that he was brilliant but you hardly ever see a righty fight like him and be great except for a guy like Ali. I know that the JCC fight would be much different if he were righty. I know that Oscar wouldve had a much easier time in that fight if Pea were righty. Its just a natural fact and I dont know why people try to fight against that. It does matter

[DLT]

so do you guys honestly think that the southpaw stance of Williams didnt give Margarito fits until he finally figured it out? Your going to tell me that you would still pick Williams in a fight between them if Williams is a righty? Hell No. If Williams is a righty then Margarito would rag his ass up and this is coming from a guy who is a far bigger Williams fan then a Margarito fan but its the truth. I also dont think that Pea walks to guys like he did alot if he were a righty. He didnt have the power to fight like that but he could get away with it as a southpaw. It changes everything. Dont get me wrong, his skillset was awesome but he cant fight that way and be super great as a righty with no power

[Sweet Pea 50]

DLT, I really don't see what you are trying to convey here, man.
So you want every single fight to be 6'0, 168 pound, orthodox fighters facing off with the same skill sets in every match?
What the hell, man?
I just don't see the point in what you are trying to prove. I might have came off as an ******* before, but you are confusing me here. I just don't see it?

[abadger]

Boxing is simply and purely the sport of two men fighting with their fists. The style in which they do it is irrelevant, and it is the job of both guys to be able to handle the style of the other.

If a southpaw has an advantage over a righty because of his style, its not a natural advantage, its his opponents fault for not being able to fight southpaws. Its as simple as that.