Who's higher on your ATG list, Mayweather or Whitaker?

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  • IMDAZED
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    #151

    That...is the dumbest list ever...

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    • Live Dog
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      #152
      Originally posted by IMDAZED
      That...is the dumbest list ever...
      I know....just look at 44, 45, and 46...
      Last edited by Live Dog; 06-17-2008, 10:08 AM.

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      • DiegoFuego
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        #153
        Originally posted by BMWM3P
        Like you have any.
        You've been posting less than 2 months. You should feel honored I even responded to your wack post.

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        • oldgringo
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          #154
          Originally posted by DiegoFuego


          I used to respect your opinions, but that is flat out wack. I guess when your favorite fighters are Whitaker and Cotto you got a lot of reason to hate Floyd though.
          Angry talk. Wack? The angry kid in the corner said I'm wack?

          Am I supposed to care about that? I just died a little inside because I lost your seal of approval...

          Other favorite fighters include Toney, Morales, Hagler, Hearns, Holyfield, Nelson, Chavez, Quartey, Holmes, McCallum. Great.

          I've been watching Floyd box for a long time. He is popular here in Michigan because of his GR roots. Started watching him around the time he beat Rios over at Van Andel. He's a great fighter and could accomplish a lot more in his career. He's not my favorite but I certainly don't hate him. If he comes back, great, if not, that sucks. He still ain't as great as Whitaker, not yet.

          Funny that you'd even mention anything about hating anyone when you have a full blown man crush on Floyd. Poll speaks for itself. Easy decision.

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          • niceguy45
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            #155
            pernell no doubt at least in my mind;

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            • BMWM3P
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              #156
              Originally posted by DiegoFuego
              You've been posting less than 2 months. You should feel honored I even responded to your wack post.
              A great floyd nuthugger answered my post, it must be my lucky day.

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              • Brockton Lip
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                #157
                Originally posted by Brockton Lip
                Accomplishments on paper goes to Mayweather
                Competition fought and head to head Whitaker is better.

                Overrall I'd go with Pernell.
                Originally posted by IMDAZED
                That makes little sense. Whitaker fought and beat better competition but Floyd has better accomplishments? How???
                Originally posted by oldgringo
                Yeah that makes no sense.
                Of course if makes sense. Mayweather is undefeated and is a 6 time world champion, Whitaker isn't. Thats looking at the stats without looking at the reasons but in black and white, he still did it and accomplished more. Whitaker could have done it as well I'd say but...
                Whitaker fought the better competition and I think was the better fighter as well.
                Overall I would say Pernell Whitaker is higher on the list.

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                • oldgringo
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                  #158
                  Originally posted by Live Dog
                  Azumah was a great fighter, but I don't know about Buddy. Buddy always looked very average to me.
                  Buddy McGirt was one hell of a boxer. Chronic shoulder problems hindered his success a bit, but he was still good enough to be considered one of the 5 best boxers in the world after he beat Simon Brown for the WBC Welterweight Title in 1991.

                  He was tough, he was very technically sound, he was smart, and he had one of the best counter right hands in the business. His wins over Genaro Leon, Howard Davis and Simon Brown (his best performance) were quality wins. He also managed to give the great Whitaker a very tough test in their first bout. That was a beautiful fight to watch from a pure boxing stance.

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                  • oldgringo
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                    #159
                    Originally posted by Brockton Lip
                    Of course if makes sense. Mayweather is undefeated and is a 6 time world champion, Whitaker isn't. Thats looking at the stats without looking at the reasons but in black and white, he still did it and accomplished more. Whitaker could have done it as well I'd say but...
                    Whitaker fought the better competition and I think was the better fighter as well.
                    Overall I would say Pernell Whitaker is higher on the list.
                    I missed the "on paper" part.

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                    • IMDAZED
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                      #160
                      Originally posted by Brockton Lip
                      Of course if makes sense. Mayweather is undefeated and is a 6 time world champion, Whitaker isn't. Thats looking at the stats without looking at the reasons but in black and white, he still did it and accomplished more. Whitaker could have done it as well I'd say but...
                      Whitaker fought the better competition and I think was the better fighter as well.
                      Overall I would say Pernell Whitaker is higher on the list.
                      Ahh I see. But those are only two reasons. How come you haven't listed all of Whitaker's?

                      Whitaker was a unified, undisputed champ at 135. Something Floyd never did. That would also make him a three-time champ. Not including belts at 140, 147 and 154. That's three more times, bringing the total to....six.

                      If you wanna say Floyd has more accomplishments than explain how. You can't just pick two for Floyd, none for Pea and then proclaim Floyd has more. Unless you think Whitaker - a guy who, like I said, was rated #9 all-time by The Ring - had zero accomplishments. If you wanna go that route, you list everyone's accomplishments. Once we throw in quality of opposition, we can reach a sound decision.

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