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  • abadger
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    Calzaghe Doesn't Give A **** About Legacy...

    Joe Calzaghe doesn't give a **** about his "legacy", at least not the way it will be seen in America. He is a Welshman, and a Brit, and back home he is already a legend who ruled his division for 11 years, became unified SMW champion then went over to America and took the belt off the man at the next weight up. He doesn't need to do a damn thing more, he doesn't care what the USA thinks. He will be remembered as possibly the greatest boxer his own country has ever produced. I think he'll be happy with that!

    That's why some posters on here need to quit it with "Roy Jones proves nothing" yadayada, because Joe and most of his fans already know it. It's a megafight taken for money to round off an already great career. Sure it would be nice to beat Pavlik, buts lets be real, he's a MW champion with what, 2 defences who just happens to be the best America can muster right now, not some living legend superfighter, the one and only fighter against whom Joe can prove himself...the whole idea is crazy. He already beat the two guys who were in the same position in his own division.

    There will always be another fighter out there for Joe to beat, after Pavlik it would be Chad Dawson, after him someone else. If Joe needs to beat them to prove something to you, then thats cool, but I'd be willing to bet Joe doesn't care. He's already achieved things other boxers literally dream about, and more than he could have ever expected, he sure doesn't need to prove anything to anyone else....
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    He's fighting for the most amount of money with the least amount of risk.

    imo, he does care about his legacy, which is exactly why he's fighting roy jones. He wants to retire undefeated and protect his legacy, rather then fighting a tougher opponent and put all that on the line.

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      Originally posted by natas206
      He's fighting for the most amount of money with the least amount of risk.
      Probably yes. It's supposed to be his last fight. Is this not allowed anymore? I can't imagine anyone complaining if say B-Hop or De La Hoya did the same thing.

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        #4
        Originally posted by natas206
        He's fighting for the most amount of money with the least amount of risk.

        imo, he does care about his legacy, which is exactly why he's fighting roy jones. He wants to retire undefeated and protect his legacy, rather then fighting a tougher opponent and put all that on the line.
        And, how objectively, is Kelly Pavlik the man against whom Joe could somehow prove himself?

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        • x-PeROxiDE-x
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          True, but Pavlik is tailor made and would make Joe look good.

          Roy could cause Joe serious problems.

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            #6
            Originally posted by abadger
            Joe Calzaghe doesn't give a **** about his "legacy", at least not the way it will be seen in America. He is a Welshman, and a Brit, and back home he is already a legend who ruled his division for 11 years, became unified SMW champion then went over to America and took the belt off the man at the next weight up. He doesn't need to do a damn thing more, he doesn't care what the USA thinks. He will be remembered as possibly the greatest boxer his own country has ever produced. I think he'll be happy with that!

            That's why some posters on here need to quit it with "Roy Jones proves nothing" yadayada, because Joe and most of his fans already know it. It's a megafight taken for money to round off an already great career. Sure it would be nice to beat Pavlik, buts lets be real, he's a MW champion with what, 2 defences who just happens to be the best America can muster right now, not some living legend superfighter, the one and only fighter against whom Joe can prove himself...the whole idea is crazy. He already beat the two guys who were in the same position in his own division.

            There will always be another fighter out there for Joe to beat, after Pavlik it would be Chad Dawson, after him someone else. If Joe needs to beat them to prove something to you, then thats cool, but I'd be willing to bet Joe doesn't care. He's already achieved things other boxers literally dream about, and more than he could have ever expected, he sure doesn't need to prove anything to anyone else....
            if he didnt care what the US thought, he wouldnt of come to vegas to fight...

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              #7
              Originally posted by reedickyaluss
              if he didnt care what the US thought, he wouldnt of come to vegas to fight...
              Unless of course it was a condition imposed by HBO....

              In order to make the most money...

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                #8
                Originally posted by abadger
                Unless of course it was a condition imposed by HBO....

                In order to make the most money...
                U think they would sell more tickets at the MGM, then at WEMBLEY???


                that fight wasnt on ppv, there was no ppv revenue

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                  I can definitely see why he wants the fight with the most money now, he has been champion for 10+ years but hasn't had those big money fights until he fought Lacy.

                  Saying that, I would have liked to see him fight Pavlik.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by abadger
                    Probably yes. It's supposed to be his last fight. Is this not allowed anymore? I can't imagine anyone complaining if say B-Hop or De La Hoya did the same thing.
                    There isn't really anything wrong, but let's call it what it is instead of painting it something else.

                    Also, we should make note of certain posters that admit this the next time they diss other fighters for doing the same thing (for example, there have been a lot of Calzaghe fans dissing mayweather, odh, etc. for taking only big money fights).

                    And, how objectively, is Kelly Pavlik the man against whom Joe could somehow prove himself?
                    I never mentioned anyones names, I simply stated that I think he does in fact care about his legacy which is why he's fighting 40 year old Roy Jones rather then someone who is more of a threat (could drop several names here)

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