Berto will lose to any top 10 WW

[Hitman932]

then it does someone else to say hes a bum...

hey now, i didnt call anyone a bum. i dont have an axe to grind against Berto. Im pointing out what i see and expressing my opinion that he will be exposed soon, that is all.

[Live Dog]

Eventually I believe he will...... being 21-0 gives me more ground to say he will be the future of the division... then it does someone else to say hes a bum...

Not really. Valero is like 24-0 with all KO wins, but it really doesn't mean anything because he has fought a bunch of nobodies. Same thing with JCC Jr. (without the KO ratio).

He might be the next big thing, he might turn out to be a bum. But, it's pure speculation either way.

[THE REED]

he staggered back to that corner reed, he barely made it.

if he would not have been able to defend himself in that condition

and if buster douglas wouldnt of gotten up from that knockdown mike tyson would of beaten him

[THE REED]

Not really. Valero is like 24-0 with all KO wins, but it really doesn't mean anything because he has fought a bunch of nobodies. Same thing with JCC Jr. (without the KO ratio).

He might be the next big thing, he might turn out to be a bum. But, it's pure speculation either way.

it still gives me more ground to say he will, then for someone to say hes a bum... unbeaten is unbeaten..


and i base my argument more on the way he performs than hes record anyways...

[Hitman932]

and if buster douglas wouldnt of gotten up from that knockdown mike tyson would of beaten him

If the round would have continued after Douglas got up he could have survived because his legs werent gone from under him the way Berto's were.

[Live Dog]

it still gives me more ground to say he will, then for someone to say hes a bum... unbeaten is unbeaten..


and i base my argument more on the way he performs than hes record anyways...

Mayweather and ODLH beat the piss out of Gatti because they were that much better. Calzaghe beat the piss out of Lacy because he was that much better.

Berto is that much better than anyone he has stepped into the ring with. He should be performing at high level.

[Hitman932]

[QUOTE=ree****yaluss;3631064]it still gives me more ground to say he will, then for someone to say hes a bum... unbeaten is unbeaten..

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Im pretty sure nobody has called Berto a bum in this thread?

I say he's the 11th or 12th best fighter at his weight, not a bum

[THE REED]

[QUOTE=Hitman932;3631085]

it still gives me more ground to say he will, then for someone to say hes a bum... unbeaten is unbeaten..

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Im pretty sure nobody has called Berto a bum in this thread?

I say he's the 11th or 12th best fighter at his weight, not a bum

ive run into quite a few people calling him a bum....

i say hes #8 or #9...

[The Gambler1981]

Eventually I believe he will...... being 21-0 gives me more ground to say he will be the future of the division... then it does someone else to say hes a bum...

Yea Berto is no bum. I am just looking to make some long green off his first loss is all. It all has to do with numbers for me though it is nothing personal, but im glad people love Berto or i would not get the oppurtunity to bet against him later on.

[THE REED]

Yea Berto is no bum. I am just looking to make some long green off his first loss is all. It all has to do with numbers for me though it is nothing personal, but im glad people love Berto or i would not get the oppurtunity to bet against him later on.

sounds good... keep track of me... ill be betting FOR him... unless its against paul williams or cotto, or margarito