Explain to me what's so great about Hopkins's middleweight resume...

[Sir_Joe]

Mikkel Kessler is better than Bernard Hopkins.

[Dynamite Kid]

he didn't just draw, but I think mercado also dropped him a couple of times in the first fight. all this does is prove calzaghe's crappiness cuz hopkins is still the best name on calzaghe's resume and he was 43 years old.

and that 43 year old arguably won that fight

[TommyGunn.]

Mikkel Kessler is better than Bernard Hopkins.

I agree with this. At least Kessler tried to win his fight with Joe. Kessler was a much tougher fight.

[Sir_Joe]

and that 43 year old arguably won that fight

I don't care what you say, you don't like Calzaghe. AT ALL.

[kayjay]

Jealous euro.***. Hopkins is an atg, Calzaghe hid in Europe.

Plus Nard is from the means streets of Germantown.

[TommyGunn.]

and that 43 year old arguably won that fight

Arguably nothing. LOL!

Not only did Calzaghe beat him he beat him at his own fight.

Dont hate, apreciate.

[Ryn0]

There is pretty much no difference in resumes, if you respect Hopkins and then don't repect Calzaghe then it's a double standard. They are both respected for the length of the title reigns and the few bigish names toward the end of the career.

[Silencers]

Hopkins' resume isn't great, it's about the same as Calzaghe's.

[TommyGunn.]

Hopkins' resume isn't great, it's about the same as Calzaghe's.

Nearly. Calzaghes big wins came against guys his size though that is the difference.

[THe TRiNiTY]

People are obsessed with "names". Hopkins is the biggest "name" Joe ever fought... but if a "name" is someone like Oscar (at middleweight) then what's in a "name"?

Here's... whats in a name. If Oscar had been able to go up to middleweight, for example and take the title from Hopkins, (people tend to forget that he was competitive until that body shot) that he would be recognized as a VERY impressive MULTI divisional champion. He didn't. The point is, is that one can then debate whether or not he's actually good enough to win the true middleweight title and Hopkins just happened to be overall, the better fighter. Or, one can just assume he has NO business in the middleweight division.

I think it's somewhere in between for Oscar. He did decent AT FIRST against Felix Sturm, but I also think he underestimated him and underprepared. I think he did well with Hopkins until that body shot. But, in the same sense, with Trinidad, who was perceived as a 'fake' middleweight AFTER the fight, even though he was the betting favorite before, he was a solid middleweight. Handled Joppy well enough. Did better than Taylor did with him, when Joppy was still fresh.

Hopkins was just the better man on that night.