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are you quite mad?Originally posted by xzworks
a great fighter no doubt but the greatest ever dont be silly.Comment
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Originally posted by J !
who's urs? how many divisons he takes?Comment
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Sugar Ray IMO, but heck I think I come closely in 2nd.Comment
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Joe Louis is my choiceComment
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the sign of a great fighter is surely not how many belts he wins at different weight classes.Originally posted by xzworks
there have been many great fighters over the eons and Jopnes while he may make a top 20 does not make the top ten in imo.
for example i would have a prime marvin halger in above Jones.
why? cos he would have beaten him at middleweight.
NAMES I WOULD CONSIDER TO BE AT LEAST BE ON A PAR OR BETTER THAN RJJ
Roberto Duran
Ray Robinson
Muhammad Ali
Henry Armstrong
Jimmy Wilde
Joe Louis
Micky Walker
Sam Langford
J.C. Chavez
Ray Leonard.
Willie Pep
Eder Jofre
Ezzard Charles
Benny Lenoard
Sandy Saddler
Archie Moore
Emile Griffith
Ricardo Lopez
M. Halger
T .Hearns
Gershon Mendlehoff (Ted Kid Lewis)
and Im bound to have forgotten many, so as you can see its pretty difficult to pick one or in fact where Roy would have fallen as its all mythical
You can however take it to the bank that RJJ will not go down as the greatest fighter ever to have lived.
Great yes, but the greatest no.
I hope this answers you questions please let me know if you need further clarification.
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Originally posted by J !the sign of a great fighter is surely not how many belts he wins at different weight classes.
there have been many great fighters over the eons and Jopnes while he may make a top 20 does not make the top ten in imo.
for example i would have a prime marvin halger in above Jones.
why? cos he would have beaten him at middleweight.
NAMES I WOULD CONSIDER TO BE AT LEAST BE ON A PAR OR BETTER THAN RJJ
Roberto Duran
Ray Robinson
Muhammad Ali
Henry Armstrong
Jimmy Wilde
Joe Louis
Micky Walker
Sam Langford
J.C. Chavez
Ray Leonard.
Willie Pep
Eder Jofre
Ezzard Charles
Benny Lenoard
Sandy Saddler
Archie Moore
Emile Griffith
Ricardo Lopez
M. Halger
T .Hearns
Gershon Mendlehoff (Ted Kid Lewis)
and Im bound to have forgotten many, so as you can see its pretty difficult to pick one or in fact where Roy would have fallen as its all mythical
You can however take it to the bank that RJJ will not go down as the greatest fighter ever to have lived.
Great yes, but the greatest no.
I hope this answers you questions please let me know if you need further clarification.
sorry i dont read all of the thread i read only the title. best P4P of all time. P4P means anyweight to me. rjj prove it from 3 weight class.Comment
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no worries mate just wanted to give you a full answer but P4P means all things being equal (weigth etc) who would beat who surely? As in who is the best boxer / fighter p4p is if they were the same size who has the best skills to win?
and that doesnt necessarily mean out and out skills you have to look at heart, chin, bravery, punch power, insuide work the whole cha****.
to properly compile a top 20 all times greats may take me a 6 months to a year due to the amoutn of reading that would be necessary to do it justice.
in fact that might be lile project I coudl set meyself on one day
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hmm
People were able to beat Ali in his prime, and more than one person at that. There also some controversial decisions rendered. Based on some film I've seen and some knowledge of history I would say Ray Rob is the best ever.
No need to say who my fave is.Comment
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YIP and even SRR wasnt invincible.
Randy Turpins victory must have been the biggest upset ever in a british ring.
Unfocucussed SRR or not.
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