Calzaghe DUCKS Pavlik - Smart Move Joe

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  • SkillspayBills
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    #31
    Roy can actually beat Joe. Pavlik can't/

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    • Undefeated
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      #32
      Originally posted by x-PeROxiDE-x
      Pavlik might hit hard, but that has nothing to do with strength.

      Calzaghe has bullied bigger men and is the far stronger man.
      What Pavlik has done to his recent opponents with the solid opposition he has been facing, it convinces me more.

      Calzaghe at this point does not hit harder than Pavlik. Pavlik has a pretty decent chin along with heart aswell.

      I would favor him to win over Calzaghe.

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      • x-PeROxiDE-x
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        #33
        Originally posted by Undefeated
        What Pavlik has done to his recent opponents with the solid opposition he has been facing, it convinces me more.

        Calzaghe at this point does not hit harder than Pavlik. Pavlik has a pretty decent chin along with heart aswell.

        I would favor him to win over Calzaghe.
        I didn't say Calzaghe hit harder, I said he was stronger, there is a big difference.

        How hard you hit is your power.

        You strength is exactly what it says, strength. Pushing fighters back, bullying them into accepting what you want them to do, etc

        Calzaghe is stronger, believe me.

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        • Chunk..
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          #34
          Originally posted by SkillspayBills
          Roy can actually beat Joe. Pavlik can't/
          The correct answer.

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          • x-PeROxiDE-x
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            #35
            Originally posted by Chunk
            The correct answer.
            Yep, and it was about time someone spelled it out clearly if you ask me.

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            • Soundtraveler
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              #36
              Originally posted by x-PeROxiDE-x
              I didn't say Calzaghe hit harder, I said he was stronger, there is a big difference.

              How hard you hit is your power.

              You strength is exactly what it says, strength. Pushing fighters back, bullying them into accepting what you want them to do, etc

              Calzaghe is stronger, believe me.
              Well, it looked to me like the OLD Middleweight Hopkins pushed Joe around all night and definately made Calzaghe fight BHops fight, not Joes'. Calzaghe is not as strong as you seem to think, and BTW Pavlik is taller than Joe is, he would easily carry more weight into the fight if he had to go up in weight. However, Joe would have a hard time going down in weight, if he did manage to make the weight - which I doubt he could, then he would be even weaker than he is now as far as punching goes.

              Joe knows Roy Jones Jr throws what - maybe 10 punches per round now lol, he just stays on the ropes now and lets people hit him. Roy is a SHADOW of his former self, make no mistake about it, that is why Joe wants him now, because 10 years ago - he wouldn't touch him and everyone in the boxing world knows it.

              Pavlik may be easy to hit, but with no power, it wouldn't matter, Pavlik would just walk through a Calzaghe punch and deliver his own MUCH harder shot. If Hopkins can knock Joe down --- Pavlik can knock him OUT....

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              • Soundtraveler
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                #37
                Originally posted by CardioMonster
                calzaghe will fight both RJJ and Pavlik before retiring. Assuming he wins the first one. After his divorce and lack of big fights at SMW he wants as much cash as possible.

                No world class boxer would be afraid of fighting Pavlik. That is the ******est thing ive ever heard.

                Pavlik is a monster in the ring, he is beating the crap out of opponants.

                Calzaghe on the other hand, is a rather featherfisted chap now.

                He hasn't had a KO in YEARS, he would not be able to keep Pavlik off of him. A fighter like Pavlik at this point, beats Joe every day of the week and twice on Sunday...

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                • !! Anorak
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Soundtraveler
                  Well, it looked to me like the OLD Middleweight Hopkins pushed Joe around all night and definately made Calzaghe fight BHops fight, not Joes'.
                  That's Hop that kept taking a dive to buy himself breaks, right?

                  Oh... Hopkins fought Joe as a bulked-up Light Heavyweight, not a middleweight. Sorry to correct you.

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                  • !! Anorak
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Soundtraveler
                    You are on - but let's make it 20K, btw, nice to see a fellow old timer here on BoxingScene, this place has blown up over the years....
                    Hi man... tell you what, let's call it 40K, yeah? Joe had Lacy out on his feet for several rounds.

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                    • Soundtraveler
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by !! Anorak
                      That's Hop that kept taking a dive to buy himself breaks, right?

                      Oh... Hopkins fought Joe as a bulked-up Light Heavyweight, not a middleweight. Sorry to correct you.
                      I didn't say I liked Hopkins tactics, I said he controlled the fight, and he did.

                      As far as Hopkins is concerned - he is a blown up Middleweight, period.

                      And he STILL gave Calaghe all he could handle even at his age, for anyone to think for a second that Calzaghe would be able to handle a young gun like Pavlik at this point is rediculous...

                      ALL my points say if the fight ever happens, Pavlik beats the crap out of Joe Calzaghe. I say Pavlik stops him by a TKO Round 9 or 10...

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