If Manny Pacquaio wins a 4th belt, will he be ranked higher than Morales or Barrera?

[Left Hook Tua]

I didn't get to see the chansakul fight, or any of his fights at a lower weight. I only saw highlights, and those guys were not on the level of a mckinney or even an old zaragoza. I just know that pac lost twice. Lehlo was a showcase fight which i have on tape, and Pac brutalized him. Pac's comp in his early years at lower weights, you have to dig deep to watch. Those guys don't compare to who morales and barrera fought early in their careers. Pac has a long way to go before he gets to their status.

im not saying it is. marco and especially erik has more solid names.

but you see how you say lehlo is not on the same level as an "old zaragoza"?

what's wrong with wins over "old barrera" and "old morales"?

see my point?

here's how i view the resumes of the big 5 122-130.

erik has the most solid names. marco is 2nd with solid names and has more big names than erik. manny has fewer solid names but won at more division and has the biggest names on his resume. hamed had a lot of solid names and cleaned up the 126 division but no big name wins. marquez has the weakest resume in terms of solid wins of the 5 but he has the most wins at 126 and has beaten a few solid names and 1 draw and 1 win against a big name.

[Titing Kabayo]

I'm really tired of these excuses...

If barerra and Morales were past their prime, why they still fought? A win is a win no matter what... You losers are better drink and shout there to release your frustrations... You're no match and you don't have that athlethic attitude... I am not a big Pac fan but reading how this fellow being underrated by morons in boxing makes me try my bad english here..

I am a big boxing fan and not boxer fan... I admire winning boxer whoever he is provided he is humble... and sad to say, barrera and marquez have always their **** in their mouth...

Marquez is not professionla (remember when he visit Philippines during Penalosa fight)... I hate these guys not because I hate mexicans.. I hate them because of their attitude... Morales and Larios are exceptions though...they don't have the **** like Barrea and Marquez have..

How can you give a credit to an idiot who dropped 4 times? Saying marquez schooled pacquiao is just like saying I am ignorant, I didin't noticed I was talking **** about that fight...Marquez and Barerra are losers. Morales and Larios are winners because they are true champions...

[MaYaN_SuN]

hey Mayan Sun, or whatever you are...................

lol Don't even act like you never seen my name you ****in pigme


And you wouldn't know greatness if it spread its asscheeks, sat on your face, and qweefed in your nose..

And you wanna talk about resume's..

[miron_lang]

I didn't get to see the chansakul fight, or any of his fights at a lower weight. I only saw highlights, and those guys were not on the level of a mckinney or even an old zaragoza. I just know that pac lost twice. Lehlo was a showcase fight which i have on tape, and Pac brutalized him. Pac's comp in his early years at lower weights, you have to dig deep to watch. Those guys don't compare to who morales and barrera fought early in their careers. Pac has a long way to go before he gets to their status.

Pls. Excuse me but you are an IGNORANT IDIOT Chatchai Sasakul is a class A champion and is a better fighter at the time compared to an Old Zaragoza watch the whole fight so that you'd understand better.

as of date PAC's resume is already better.

Sasakul
Ledwabba
Julio ( A former champion )
Larios
Morales 2X
Barrera
Juan Manuel Marquez

This list will be better as the yrs goes.

[MaYaN_SuN]

im not saying it is. marco and especially erik has more solid names.

but you see how you say lehlo is not on the same level as an "old zaragoza"?

what's wrong with wins over "old barrera" and "old morales"?

see my point?

here's how i view the resumes of the big 5 122-130.

erik has the most solid names. marco is 2nd with solid names and has more big names than erik. manny has fewer solid names but won at more division and has the biggest names on his resume. hamed had a lot of solid names and cleaned up the 126 division but no big name wins. marquez has the weakest resume in terms of solid wins of the 5 but he has the most wins at 126 and has beaten a few solid names and 1 draw and 1 win against a big name.

Thats all I'm sayin. Paq has no real threat on his resume, he's livin off of past names and completely avoiding the present names.


Dude has to do half the work and he reaps 10x's the benefit. That says alot in many different ways.

Now is Paq talented? Yeah, thats obvious. Can he be hit? With his sloppy ass south paw style?...he's bascially bein BEGGED to be picked apart. But he stays facing older guys, slow hands, and no names.


Any skilled fighter with 2 hands can make this kid look foolish..

[miron_lang]

Marco Antonio Barrera was on an incredible run and was at #3 pound for pound when pac chalenged him. after PAC destroyed him he went 6-0 plus a WBC belt before JMM.

to some idiots he's not a threat???

[MaYaN_SuN]

Marco Antonio Barrera was on an incredible run and was at #3 pound for pound when pac chalenged him. after PAC destroyed him he went 6-0 plus a WBC belt before JMM.

to some idiots he's not a threat???

I'll give Paq the crown, no question. He was the first to get dibs on tender versions of Barrera and Morales.


But those weren't anything near risks. Paq got to slam-fist a tender Marco and was lucky that Morales didn't run around in the second fight.

Why wasn't there a 3rd fight with Marquez the same way there was a 3rd fight with Morales?

*lol Thats a rhetorical question..*


And this ****in tree house livin, ****in pigme from brasil, has the nerve, has the ****in will within himself to talk about "resumes.."

[miron_lang]

But those weren't anything near risks.

Pac is a 122lbs fighter chalenging the BEST in the division above him. and its not a risk?

Why wasn't there a 3rd fight with Marquez the same way there was a 3rd fight with Morales?

Morales-Pac was 1-1 after 2
JMM-Pac was technically(not opinionated) 2-0 after 2

*lol Thats a rhetorical question..*

lol @ that *

[NAPO]

if u think hat pacquiao is not higher at this stage then u must of really hate him.


this mofo started at 112! come on and the competition has been great.


pacquiao is one of the best fighters of the last 20 years.

[MaYaN_SuN]

Pac is a 122lbs fighter chalenging the BEST in the division above him. and its not a risk?

No..."lol" @ that..

He was fighting Flip fighters at 122...lol

Morales-Pac was 1-1 after 2
JMM-Pac was technically(not opinionated) 2-0 after 2

What?

Marquez vs Paq after 2 was 1 draw and 1 win for Paq. And that win was by 1 lucky ass point lol.

Marquez, performance wise...lol he blew Paq out of the water.



And because of that, there is no real surprise he ran up to lightweight, where nobody is at.