Kelly Pavlik Sets His Sights on Joe Calzaghe

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  • x-PeROxiDE-x
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    #21
    Originally posted by TheRocketMan
    You guys do know Calzaghe has dropped Enzo Maccarinelli during sparring in the past?
    Of course they don't, they have only seen the Hopkins fight. Add to that it was Calzaghe's first week back in the gym for the Hopkins fight, and Enzo was in peak condition already, and Joe's deceiving power will take them all by suprise.

    What else they don't realise is, Enzo is a very noted puncher at CRUISERWEIGHT, yet has never even wobbled Calzaghe, despite catching him flush a lot of times when Joe is just starting his sparring and is a little rusty.

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    • Kobe Bryant
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      #22
      Originally posted by Ryno113
      He got dropped when he was cold in the very 1st round AND he was off balance. He would destroy Pavlik right now, give it a few years and Pavlik would win but Joe isn't gonna stick around that long.

      Pavlik has a stand up come forward style much like Kessler without the footwork but more power, first 4 rounds will be close after that Calzaghe will pull away.
      I disagree. Pavlik has great stamina as well. Kessler tired out. He wouldn't get destroyed Joe has no power. And Kelly has a strong jab to offset Joe's workrate. Kelly can punch. People are failing to realize it. He's not Hopkins this is a young bull with a lot of talent and heart.

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      • x-PeROxiDE-x
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        #23
        Originally posted by lefhooktodabody
        I disagree. Pavlik has great stamina as well. Kessler tired out. He wouldn't get destroyed Joe has no power. And Kelly has a strong jab to offset Joe's workrate. Kelly can punch. People are failing to realize it. He's not Hopkins this is a young bull with a lot of talent and heart.
        Kessler did not tire, he had the same problem that Calzaghe had with Hopkins. Everytime he threw a punch, he was eating 2 or 3 counters, so his workrate was reduced.

        Kessler has a jab that is as good as Kelly's, and it wasn't enough to offset Joe's workrate. Joe's jab is actually better than Kessler's and probably Kelly's too.

        They said Lacy can punch and they said Kessler can punch. Kelly brings nothing that Calzaghe hasn't seen before, and guess what? He's undefeated.

        Calzaghe has a lot of tools that Kelly has never come up against, he is the most unique fighter alive today. You cannot find a sparring partner to simulate Calzaghe's style, because he doesn't have one.

        He could tear Kelly up on the inside, pick him off from the outside or counterpunch him into submission.

        I wouldn't be at all suprised if Kelly were to quit on his stool. It takes a lot out of you, both mentally and physically, when you miss most of your punches and eat 5 or 6 in return
        Last edited by x-PeROxiDE-x; 06-08-2008, 08:24 AM.

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          #24
          Originally posted by xcaret
          why are people overrated calzaghe? he got dropped by granpa hopkins just imagine what a prime hard hitter like pavlik would do to him
          Hopkins makes everyone look bad, it's all he can do these days. Yeah he put Joe down (yawn) but Joe got straight back up and got on with the job(thats how the great fighters earn their corn) whilst Hopkins didn't have the bottle to risk anything to try and finish Joe off. Instead he just wanted to hold and headbutt Joe for 2 and half mins of every round.

          45-0

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            #25
            Originally posted by x-LuKe-x
            Kessler did not tire, he had the same problem that Calzaghe had with Hopkins. Everytime he threw a punch, he was eating 2 or 3 counters, so his workrate was reduced.

            Kessler has a jab that is as good as Kelly's, and it wasn't enough to offset Joe's workrate. Joe's jab is actually better than Kessler's and probably Kelly's too.

            They said Lacy can punch and they said Kessler can punch. Kelly brings nothing that Calzaghe hasn't seen before, and guess what? He's undefeated.

            Calzaghe has a lot of tools that Kelly has never come up against, he is the most unique fighter alive today. You cannot find a sparring partner to simulate Calzaghe's style, because he doesn't have one.

            He could tear Kelly up on the inside, pick him off from the outside or counterpunch him into submission.

            I wouldn't be at all suprised if Kelly were to quit on his stool. It takes a lot out of you, both mentally and physically, when you miss most of your punches and eat 5 or 6 in return

            You can't be serious??? Kely has fought two other guys with much greater power than Joe in Miranda and Taylor. Kelly quit???? You must have not seen the 2nd round against Taylor. You have to kill him to get him out.

            You are talking about workrate as if Kelly isn't a high volume puncher. And unlike Joe he has a lot of pop.

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              #26
              Originally posted by lefhooktodabody
              You can't be serious??? Kely has fought two other guys with much greater power than Joe in Miranda and Taylor. Kelly quit???? You must have not seen the 2nd round against Taylor. You have to kill him to get him out.

              You are talking about workrate as if Kelly isn't a high volume puncher. And unlike Joe he has a lot of pop.
              He can punch hard yes, but that's only going to take more out of him when he misses. Calzaghe's biggest strength is slipping punches and counter punching. The easiest shots to slip? Straight ones, that you see from a mile off. Calzaghe proved against Kessler how good he is against a straight puncher with a significant power advantage.

              Kelly would be missing all night, eating some big counter shots as he moves forward. Joe would outwork him and break his heart.

              If Kelly doesn't quit, his corner will pull him out. Kelly has a bright future ahead of him and doesn't want to take too much punishment this early into his title reign.

              Im calling it right now, Joe makes Kelly miss more than Kelly has ever missed, and hits him more than he has ever been hit. Kelly either quits or gets pulled out. Other than that he loses a WIDE UD, 8 rounds to 4, at least.

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                #27
                Kelly Pavlik is not ready for calzaghe at the moment,
                Pavliks made for calzaghe i think calzaghe would take pavlik to school for 12 rounds

                great match up for Calzaghe tho imagin retiring after beating the number 1 man contender at supermiddle weight (kessler) the number 1 man at light heavy (hopkins) then the number one man at Middleweight (Pavlik) no one could Diss Calzaghes record after tht

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                  #28
                  Can't believe post fight Pavlik said this:

                  "No one knew who Calzaghe was until he beat Hopkins"

                  Oh dear, say many didn't perhaps which underlines the ignorance. But to say no one knew the no.1 SMW champion of 10 years, whom beat a house hold name in Eubank, and just recent years beat Lacy, Bika, and Kessler, is just lame.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by lefhooktodabody
                    You can't be serious??? Kely has fought two other guys with much greater power than Joe in Miranda and Taylor. Kelly quit???? You must have not seen the 2nd round against Taylor. You have to kill him to get him out.

                    You are talking about workrate as if Kelly isn't a high volume puncher. And unlike Joe he has a lot of pop.
                    What makes you think Taylor hits harder than Calzaghe? He was struggling to make an impression on jr middelweights whereas Calzaghe has a highly respectable stoppage rate at 168.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by x-LuKe-x
                      He can punch hard yes, but that's only going to take more out of him when he misses. Calzaghe's biggest strength is slipping punches and counter punching. The easiest shots to slip? Straight ones, that you see from a mile off. Calzaghe proved against Kessler how good he is against a straight puncher with a significant power advantage.

                      Kelly would be missing all night, eating some big counter shots as he moves forward. Joe would outwork him and break his heart.

                      If Kelly doesn't quit, his corner will pull him out. Kelly has a bright future ahead of him and doesn't want to take too much punishment this early into his title reign.

                      Im calling it right now, Joe makes Kelly miss more than Kelly has ever missed, and hits him more than he has ever been hit. Kelly either quits or gets pulled out. Other than that he loses a WIDE UD, 8 rounds to 4, at least.
                      It's hard to pick off shots when there's a strong jab behind it. But I'm not gonna debate about this any longer. Because to me it seems as though you think Joe can actually hurt Kelly which is something that I can't agree on.

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