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  • x-PeROxiDE-x
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    #41
    Originally posted by -Antonio-
    I didnt know not ballooning up in weight kept you from lunging into your opponent with your arms down.
    That's always been Ricky's style though. He used to have pretty good head movement and good reflexes for slipping punches. It is only recently his head movement has gone and he has stopped slipping so many punches. This is most probably caused by, suprise suprise, gaining too much weight between fights.

    Originally posted by rizo_swat
    By the way, this is boxing, not hugging. Why is why i say what i say about Hatton. It's beyond obvious that Mayorga isn't technically sound BUT guess what? The man throws his fist at the other guy, not wrap his arms around him.
    Well according to official stats, Hatton landed 63 punches on the best defensive boxer in the game today, possibly ever. That's not bad for a fat man who never throws punches.

    But all joking aside, Hatton used to be a lot more active, but the weight thing has taken it's toll, and that's why he holds so much.

    Hatton used to jump to the inside and work straight away, then hold if he needed to, then carry on working. These days, after doing all the hard work getting on the inside, he is too tired to do any effective work straight away, so he holds first, then works on the inside. If the ref breaks it up before he gets his chance to work, as in the Mayweather fight, it looks like he does nothing but hold on all fight. This is a stamina problem that Hatton didn't seem to have earlier in his career, and arises from the toll all the yo yo dieting is taking on his body.

    Another thing we could take into account is his age. Although not that old for a boxer, remember that boxers at lower weights generally have shorter careers as they rely more on their reflexes to slip and block shots that are faster than people at higher weights have ever had to contend with. He has had a relatively long career, especially considering the wars he has been in and the punishment he has taken.

    It's basically a combination of the weight issue, taking too many punches to the head and his age.

    Good thread BTW, don't listen to the haters, some very valid points have been raised here.

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    • MELLY-MEL...
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      #42
      Originally posted by rizo_swat
      By the way, "Melly", I wasn't praising anyone You're the one that brought up Mayorga.

      Let's move on. To each his own.
      Originally posted by rizo_swat
      Mayorga losing is more entertaining than watching a "Hatton shutout".
      Originally posted by rizo_swat
      Atleast my boy threw punches and didn't just clinch the whole fight. Plus Mayorga is 1000000x more entertaining than watching any of Hatton's fights.

      Prime for prime Mayorga would make Hatton his *****.
      not praising? fair enough, nuthugging it is.

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      • rizkybizness
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        #43
        Originally posted by x-LuKe-x
        That's always been Ricky's style though. He used to have pretty good head movement and good reflexes for slipping punches. It is only recently his head movement has gone and he has stopped slipping so many punches. This is most probably caused by, suprise suprise, gaining too much weight between fights.



        Well according to official stats, Hatton landed 63 punches on the best defensive boxer in the game today, possibly ever. That's not bad for a fat man who never throws punches.

        But all joking aside, Hatton used to be a lot more active, but the weight thing has taken it's toll, and that's why he holds so much.

        Hatton used to jump to the inside and work straight away, then hold if he needed to, then carry on working. These days, after doing all the hard work getting on the inside, he is too tired to do any effective work straight away, so he holds first, then works on the inside. If the ref breaks it up before he gets his chance to work, as in the Mayweather fight, it looks like he does nothing but hold on all fight. This is a stamina problem that Hatton didn't seem to have earlier in his career, and arises from the toll all the yo yo dieting is taking on his body.

        Another thing we could take into account is his age. Although not that old for a boxer, remember that boxers at lower weights generally have shorter careers as they rely more on their reflexes to slip and block shots that are faster than people at higher weights have ever had to contend with. He has had a relatively long career, especially considering the wars he has been in and the punishment he has taken.

        It's basically a combination of the weight issue, taking too many punches to the head and his age.

        Good thread BTW, don't listen to the haters, some very valid points have been raised here.
        Great post. However, getting on the inside, holding, then getting to work IS NOT boxing and IS illegal. If boxing was about holding and hitting I would honestly think Hatton is the GOAT.

        I respect your point of view and respect the fact that you didn't jump in here calling anyone a fat yank **** as I was expecting.

        Good day.

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          #44
          Originally posted by rizo_swat
          To be honest, I think Mayorga's a better boxer. All bull**** aside.
          I'd give the edge to Hatton but I respect your opinion.

          I'm the one that brought up Mayorga. I'm not even a Hatton fan but your harsh wording made me a little argumentative. I agree that Mayorga is more exciting to watch though.

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            #45
            Originally posted by Melly-Mel
            not praising? fair enough, nuthugging it is.
            Why don't you start a thread and see who agrees and who doesnt agree to what you have bolded? You keep perpetuating this ****.


            - The Mayorga "Nut hugger"

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              #46
              Originally posted by abosworth
              I'd give the edge to Hatton but I respect your opinion.

              I'm the one that brought up Mayorga. I'm not even a Hatton fan but your harsh wording made me a little argumentative. I agree that Mayorga is more exciting to watch though.
              lol, I thought Melly brought up Mayorga. Well, I'd like to apologize for my harsh wording. I come across like that sometimes through writing, even if I'm not being harsh.

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                #47
                Originally posted by rizo_swat
                lol, I thought Melly brought up Mayorga. Well, I'd like to apologize for my harsh wording. I come across like that sometimes through writing, even if I'm not being harsh.
                No need to apologizes man! It's only the internet and I myself, can come across as harsh at times. too.

                BTW, you gave me an idea for a thread and I just posted it. You should vote!

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                • Bizzle_LDN
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by rizo_swat
                  Two words:

                  Blind Patriotism.

                  I'd go see Glen Johnson if he was fighting here in Miami, not so much because I'm such a HUGE ****ING fan of his, but because;

                  1) I love boxing
                  2) It's right here, so why not?

                  (Disclaimer: In no way shape or form am I comparing Hatton and Johnson as boxers, Johnson is a very skilled fighter, the exact opposite of Hatton)
                  Sorry but that is such a ridiculous assumption. Do you think that everyone that went to the Hatton vs. Lazcano fight lived in Manchester?! I live in London and I went to that fight. If you don't know England's major cities geographical locations (which you probably don't because you don't know ****!) then you would realize that it's not close... I wouldn't consider myself as 'blindly patriotic', I am a fan of boxing and the Malignaggi vs. N'Dou, Hatton vs. Lazcano fights were very entertaining! The atmosphere at Ricky Hatton fights are amazing aswell.

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                  • joshyp18
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                    #49
                    everyone chill out. hatton is not **** because he lost to floyd. hes still the best at 140 and he bounced back well i thort agenst lazcano considering the beating he took off pbf. give the guy a break hes 44-1 not a bad record for a fat beer drinking mancunian.

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                    • rizkybizness
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Bizzle_LDN
                      Sorry but that is such a ridiculous assumption. Do you think that everyone that went to the Hatton vs. Lazcano fight lived in Manchester?! I live in London and I went to that fight. If you don't know England's major cities geographical locations (which you probably don't because you don't know ****!) then you would realize that it's not close... I wouldn't consider myself as 'blindly patriotic', I am a fan of boxing and the Malignaggi vs. N'Dou, Hatton vs. Lazcano fights were very entertaining! The atmosphere at Ricky Hatton fights are amazing aswell.
                      Hey douche bag, don't start off a post saying "sorry but" and then turn it into insults. I don't know the geographical specifications of England and quite frankly, it doesn't matter to me.

                      YOU, my friend, don't know **** about boxing. You're just a casual fan that's supporting his little lad.

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