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hearns deserved to fight on, and hearns was hurt far worse than taylor..........both were champions who deservd to fight on with the ref close by...........hearns went down against leonard in round 13, the ref counted, brushed gloves and let him go...didn't say a word..............Comment
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People... understand.
In a perfect world, yes, Steele would've let Taylor fight on and win given how little time was left in the fight.... but that's not how **** works. There are rules. Steele asked and asked again, he then did the only thing he could do at that point. Imagine the outcry if Steele had asked another 2 times and not gotten an answer as the final bell rings and then Taylor wins a decision?
It's not, by my knowledge, required that a ref ask if they can continue. But it's their job to assess if a fighter can continue to fight. They ask them a question, look them over, ask them to step to them, etc... If they ask the question they damn well better use the answer (or lack thereof).Last edited by Dirt E Gomez; 06-05-2008, 01:29 AM.Comment
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Hearns looked directly into Steele's eyes no more than Taylor did. There was a short time where Taylor is looking directly at Steele before he turns his attention to Duva.
Hearns looked into Steele's eyes and said NOTHING. He didn't nod his head by his own will, he was stumbling around and his head was bouncing around. Not to mention Steele made sure Barkley was in an appropriate corner. Not to mention Hearns tried to get up and slumped back to the canvas looking like a corpse. Not to mention Hearns was slower and less steady to get up than Mel. Hearns didn't reply any more explicitly than Mel Taylor and Steele sent him back out to fight. Tommy got up and was allowed to continue, Mel got up and was not.
You said it yourself, that's your definition of a ****ty ref, just happened to fit Steele's agenda when he stopped Taylor.Comment
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it isn't about the rules.........no rules were broken by steele or taylor................it isn't a universal rule that a ref has to speak to a fighter after he is down........not all ref's speak to fighters after the first knockdown........in a major unification title fight......you don't ask 2 questions, don't get an answer, and stop the fight.........fighters train for months......knockdowns happen........you ask the fighter to take 2 steps forward......or wave your arms for the fighter to step forward.........if he can't without losing his balance fight over.........you are asking a split second question, and expecting a split second answer......that is not fair to any fighter.......Comment
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So you're saying ref's asking a fighter if they can continue is bad for boxing? Am I honestly reading that correctly?Comment
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no, i'm merely stating why are refs talking to a guy who was flattened, and trying to gain his sense.....and this fighter gets up from a knockdown.......when all the ref has to do is ask the fighter to walk 2 steps forward to see if he can still continue.............when mayorga put forrest down, forrest gets up..........the ref asked him if he wanted to continue........forrest shook his head to clear his head........and because the ref didn't get an answer.........the ref stops the fight.........for what??????.do you think mayorga-forrest 1 should've been stopped????.....forrest was a world champion......who deserved every chance to finish.........mel taylor gets up........steele instead of asking taylor to come forward to see if taylor is still hurt, stops the fight.............this was a unification fight.......knockdowns and being hurt are part of the fight........pac knocks marquez down 3 times..........and he gets to go all 12 rounds...........Comment
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Taylor didn't respond to him and looked out, yeah it sucks to get stopped while winning with 2 seconds left but he didn't respond like he should haveComment
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