Can Pac Man Go all the way to welterweight?

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  • Left Hook Tua
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    #21
    Originally posted by shadeyfizzle
    I agree 147 might be too much but you wont see much difference between now and a manny at 140. He'll still be just as fast as malignaggi
    malignacci is not a problem. manny probably had more starch than that guy when he was 108.

    the problem i really have is if manny goes up to 140 or 147 there's just guys there that would be way too big for him to fight.

    what's gonna happen? arum gonna handpick who he does and doesn't fight at 140 or 147? i like the guy. he's already hated on here. i don't want to see any "floyd"-like threads about manny at 140/147. seriously how does manny fight a margarito or williams?

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    • Sin City
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      #22
      Originally posted by ElGranLuchador
      for a guy that started at 108 going to 140 is pushing it let alone 147
      He was 17 when he was 108.. still a kid so I feel that don't really make a difference.. his body wasn't at full capacity yet.

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      • KnockoutTheFat
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        #23
        If he ends up fighting at WW, he's gonna end up fighting guys who come into the ring at over 160. With his style, it ain't gonna translate well.

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        • Left Hook Tua
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          #24
          Originally posted by KnockoutTheFat
          Unless Pacquiao can find some rare coins to put in the ring, we're gonna have to call this fight "The Slaughter in the Water" seeing as every country would refuse to sanction this potential manslaughter case.
          agreed. tough for manny to fight someone much bigger and much stronger.

          especially considering TYE has the slight speed advantage as well.

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          • shadeyfizzle
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            #25
            Originally posted by Left Hook Tua
            malignacci is not a problem. manny probably had more starch than that guy when he was 108.

            the problem i really have is if manny goes up to 140 or 147 there's just guys there that would be way too big for him to fight.

            what's gonna happen? arum gonna handpick who he does and doesn't fight at 140 or 147? i like the guy. he's already hated on here. i don't want to see any "floyd"-like threads about manny at 140/147. seriously how does manny fight a margarito or williams?
            The same way Cotto does/will. the 1dimensional 1-2 to the balls will sure hurt enough to slow them down. Especially for the 6ft williams who's balls'd be shoulder level with Manny. Real talk though Steve Forbes was able to compete at juniormiddle at a high level and he aint that slick. Manny is actually bigger than him so I dont see why he wouldnt be competitive at welter. Just perhaps not at the highest level at welter.

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            • AceNguyen
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              #26
              It would be ridiculous, I don't care if he comes into fights at 145 right now. So what? Most welterweights right now are weight-drained middleweights, he would be in serious danger. Judah and Mayweather are smaller welters but at least have the speed and elusiveness to stay safe against these huge guys; Pacquiao would have no way of defending himself against a Cotto or Margarito.

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                #27
                Originally posted by shadeyfizzle
                The same way Cotto does/will. the 1dimensional 1-2 to the balls will sure hurt enough to slow them down. Especially for the 6ft williams who's balls'd be shoulder level with Manny. Real talk though Steve Forbes was able to compete at juniormiddle at a high level and he aint that slick. Manny is actually bigger than him so I dont see why he wouldnt be competitive at welter. Just perhaps not at the highest level at welter.
                ha ha ha whatever works.

                i don't think manny is bigger than steve. plus steve has a lot better defense imo than manny.

                if he can't compete at the highest level at welter then what's the point? it'll be like watching jordan play in the cba or montana in the xfl.

                i say stay at 135 and fight guzman , valero , marquez , casa , diaz , diaz , diaz and then hatton at 140. unless it's for mega bucks against a mega star no need to go to 140 or 147 where he'd be medioce imo.

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                • AceNguyen
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Left Hook Tua

                  if he can't compete at the highest level at welter then what's the point? it'll be like watching jordan play in the cba or montana in the xfl.
                  I agree, there's too much pressure these days for fighters to move up weight classes every six months. I don't understand why people don't want to see fighters at their best weight. If Marvin Hagler were fighting today, people would probably want to see him fight the Klitchkos.

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                  • them_apples
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                    #29
                    Manny could fight at welter, just not yet. He's only 29 and comes to fights at 147 anyways (usually these weakened him) I say after he fights a good portion of tough lightweights he could possibly move up, nobody would look down on him if he lost.

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                    • shadeyfizzle
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Left Hook Tua
                      ha ha ha whatever works.

                      i don't think manny is bigger than steve. plus steve has a lot better defense imo than manny.

                      if he can't compete at the highest level at welter then what's the point? it'll be like watching jordan play in the cba or montana in the xfl.

                      i say stay at 135 and fight guzman , valero , marquez , casa , diaz , diaz , diaz and then hatton at 140. unless it's for mega bucks against a mega star no need to go to 140 or 147 where he'd be medioce imo.
                      Well im simply saying it remains to be seen. He would definitely be competitive at welter but who knows what'll happen between then and now. He might lose badly against Diaz and not even be fit for lightweight. He might develop incredible boxing skills and/or enough mass on himself to be a dominant welter in 2yrs time. Im just saying the possibility of it happening are more likely than it NOT happening so dont count him out just yet because he has already proven himself a modern day duran

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