Can Pac Man Go all the way to welterweight?

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  • ElGranLuchador
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    #11
    for a guy that started at 108 going to 140 is pushing it let alone 147

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    • msagrain
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      #12
      This is in the ATG **** THREAD list.

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      • VERSION1 (V1)
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        #13
        no no no way he will get killed at 147

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        • shadeyfizzle
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          #14
          Originally posted by Left Hook Tua
          anyone can see it. he came in at 140+ the last fight.

          but what are we gonna see?

          manny on the floor crumpled up like oscar in his "2ND" middleweight loss?

          i say fight a few fights at 135 against the current titlists at 135 and 130. make your money in ONE superfight at 140 against ricky and hope to catch ricky on the downside of his career before you hit the downside of yours.

          that'll be my plan for manny.
          No faith homie?? Being someone with personal experience in the fight game i can tell you 140 would actually be Pac's natural fighting weight and his punch will become even stronger everytime he goes up a weight. Its his speed however that'll suffer everytime he does. I have no doubt he will have the goods to be king of 140 even against prime guys. 147 might be too much of a stretch though.

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          • Left Hook Tua
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            #15
            Originally posted by shadeyfizzle
            No faith homie?? Being someone with personal experience in the fight game i can tell you 140 would actually be Pac's natural fighting weight and his punch will become even stronger everytime he goes up a weight. Its his speed however that'll suffer everytime he does. I have no doubt he will have the goods to be king of 140 even against prime guys. 147 might be too much of a stretch though.
            it's not no faith. more like realistic. if he was a slick boxer like say roy or floyd i have no problem with it. but manny is a slugger and he's gonna get hit.

            you never know when that one fight ruins a guy. look at meldrick in his "win" against julio.

            skills can always overcome size but when the skills are equal or close size more than likely wins out. what makes manny special? his punching power and his speed. at 147 the speed is lessened and his punching power will not be there. he's just gonna get beat up. look at what happened to alexis when he went up to meet pryor. alexis is bigger and much better skilled than manny.

            if he was a slick boxer it's possible he can pull out a decisions but as a slugger type he's too small. ricky is way bigger than manny and we all know he's too small for 147.

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            • KnockoutTheFat
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              #16
              He won't be weight drained at 147, but he won't be effective. This question is kinda like asking if he can beat the beast (NO THAT AIN'T a TYPO).
              Last edited by KnockoutTheFat; 06-04-2008, 01:56 PM.

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                #17
                Originally posted by Left Hook Tua
                it's not no faith. more like realistic. if he was a slick boxer like say roy or floyd i have no problem with it. but manny is a slugger and he's gonna get hit.

                you never know when that one fight ruins a guy. look at meldrick in his "win" against julio.

                skills can always overcome size but when the skills are equal or close size more than likely wins out. what makes manny special? his punching power and his speed. at 147 the speed is lessened and his punching power will not be there. he's just gonna get beat up. look at what happened to alexis when he went up to meet pryor. alexis is bigger and much better skilled than manny.

                if he was a slick boxer it's possible he can pull out a decisions but as a slugger type he's too small. ricky is way bigger than manny and we all know he's too small for 147.
                I agree 147 might be too much but you wont see much difference between now and a manny at 140. He'll still be just as fast as malignaggi

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by KnockoutTheFat
                  He won't be weight drained at 147, but he won't be effective. This question is kinda like asking if he can beat the beast (NO THAT AIN'T a TYPO).
                  well...... to be the best you have to beat the beast......

                  tye fields-manny pacquiao 2009

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Left Hook Tua
                    well...... to be the best you have to beat the beast......

                    tye fields-manny pacquiao 2009
                    Unless Pacquiao can find some rare coins to put in the ring, we're gonna have to call this fight "The Slaughter in the Water" seeing as every country would refuse to sanction this potential manslaughter case.

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                    • eastsdepwrpnchr
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                      The height/reach advantage most of his opponents would have probably would drastically reduce his chances of winning fights. If he did go to welterweight, I would love to see him matched up against Paul Williams. The stare down photo from the weigh ins would be funny because Paul Williams would like Valuev in it.

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