Boxing Myths 2.....

[Flawless.]

1984 – Tyrell Biggs (USA)
1988 – Lennox Lewis (CAN)
1992 – Roberto Balado (CUB)
1996 – Wladimir Klitschko (UKR)
2000 – Audley Harrison (GBR)
2004 – Alexander Povetkin (RUS)
2008 – Roberto Cammarelle (ITA)


Only 2 Super heavyweight won by eastern european

[Flawless.]

1920 – Eddie Eagan (USA)
1924 – Harry Mitchell (GBR)
1928 – Víctor Avendaño (ARG)
1932 – David Carstens (RSA)
1936 – Roger Michelot (FRA)
1948 – George Hunter (RSA)
1952 – Norvel Lee (USA)
1956 – James Boyd (USA)
1960 – Cassius Clay (later Muhammad Ali) (USA)
1964 – Cosimo Pinto (ITA)
1968 – Danas Pozniakas (URS)
1972 – Mate Parlov (YUG)
1976 – Leon Spinks (USA)
1980 – Slobodan Kacar (YUG)
1984 – Anton Josipovic (YUG)
1988 – Andrew Maynard (USA)
1992 – Torsten May (GER)
1996 – Vassiliy Jirov (KAZ)
2000 – Aleksandr Lebziak (RUS)
2004 – Andre Ward (USA)
2008 – Zhang Xiaoping (CHN)


LHW 5 eastern european

[Steak]

1904 – Samuel Berger (USA)
1908 – Albert Oldman (GBR)
1920 – Ronald Rawson (GBR)
1924 – Otto von Porat (NOR)
1928 – Arturo Rodríguez (ARG)
1932 – Santiago Lovell (ARG)
1936 – Herbert Runge (GER)
1948 – Rafael Iglesias (ARG)
1952 – Ed Sanders (USA)
1956 – Pete Rademacher (USA)
1960 – Franco De Piccoli (ITA)
1964 – Joe Frazier (USA)
1968 – George Foreman (USA)
1972 – Teófilo Stevenson (CUB)
1976 – Teófilo Stevenson (CUB)
1980 – Teófilo Stevenson (CUB)
1984 – Henry Tillman (USA)
1988 – Ray Mercer (USA)
1992 – Félix Savón (CUB)
1996 – Félix Savón (CUB)
2000 – Félix Savón (CUB)
2004 – Odlanier Solis Fonte (CUB)
2008 – Rakhim Chakhkiev (RUS)




Only one Eastern European won a gold medal but if Cuba was allow to box professionally it would be a different story

good info there. but thats just heavy, not superheavy,right?

but you also have to take into account that gold medal does not = world champ. look at Audley Harrison. hmmm.

and also a lot of the guys that are gold medalists are in their 30s going fighting against guys in their early twenties. big gap in experience, and the 30 year old guys would not really be able to grow much when they entered the pros...while the bronze medalist in his twenties would probebly be able to transition and do better in the pros.

[Flawless.]

good info there. but thats just heavy, not superheavy,right?

but you also have to take into account that gold medal does not = world champ. look at Audley Harrison. hmmm.

and also a lot of the guys that are gold medalists are in their 30s going fighting against guys in their early twenties. big gap in experience, and the 30 year old guys would not really be able to grow much when they entered the pros...while the bronze medalist in his twenties would probebly be able to transition and do better in the pros.

Agreed, but the fighter they brought to the Olympics would be there best available fighter.

[shadeyfizzle]

you guys are way off course.

that comment was based on a comment that eastern europeans would have dominated if it wasn't for communism.

the other guy asked if they were so good why didn't they dominate in the amateurs?

schmelling is german and ingemar is swedish. neither is eastern european. neither was affected by communism.

Germany not affected by communism but uh...****sm was pretty much on the same level.

[Flawless]

Germany not affected by communism but uh...****sm was pretty much on the same level.

That is why Schmelling was allowed to compete professionally unlike other communist countries.

[Clegg]

yea, but their best fighters were still fighting in the amateurs, right? George Foreman, Ali, and Frazier all got gold medals, which means they were better than the best Soviet fighters before they even turned pro.
hell, Foreman even knocked out a Russian to win his gold, didnt he?

Yes, but a lot of things in communist Russia were very badly run, and I'd imagine that the training that Manny Steward gives Wlad is 100x superior to that given to the Eastern European amateurs in the past. Who knows how well those Russians would do if they turned pro and had a trainer like Dundee or Futch.

There's also no guarantee that the boxer picked to represent the Soviets was selected on merit.

Also, wouldn't they be limited to one guy per weight? So that would mean that only one out of Wlad, Vitali, Chagaev, Valuev, Povetkin etc. would be able to compete.

But anyway, I'm not saying Eastern Euros would dominate in the 70s, but certainly there are other eras where the Americans were not so good or just had one dominant guy, where the Eastern Europeans would've been competitive.

[shadeyfizzle]

That is why Schmelling was allowed to compete professionally unlike other communist countries.

Communism wasnt a bad thing until Stalin came into power. Russia under Lenin still competed in the olympics and traded with capitalist countries

[Mr. Philadel]

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