MMA promotes to americans, Boxing promotes nationality/race

[El Jesus]

Man, Americans for the most part are lost on boxing because the sport itself decided to make it basically ethnically geared. I mean when you think about it, most mexicans support mexicans, puerto ricans support puerto ricans, pinoys support pinoys. But americans? For the most part, i we dont support much of anything unless he/she is a reigonal person.

Americans promote americans fighting americans, and if they arent american, they promote them without the flag of another country, or another countries culture thrown in your face. By that i mean "Mexican Glory" or "Latin Fury"

Boxing began to lose when what country you came from came before the fighter/fight itself. The moment we stopped caring about our olympians when they came out of the amatuers and when we stopped supporting our own, is how boxing in this country began to lose its way. All of these ethnically charged PPV's dont help, why would a black man in florida be interested in a ppv called "mexican glory"?

Why would a white man in missouri care about miguel cotto when hes being promoted exclusively as the next puerto rican sensation, as opposed to the next boxing sensation?

Appealing to races is whats hurting our sport majorly, instead of building up a reigonal fanbase and promoting say, latin fighters, IN ENGLISH on FREE TV, we promote spanish language fighters, on exclusively spanish language tv, to appeal to who? SPANISH SPEAKING PEOPLE.

Cotto Vs Margarito should be huge! but who will they only reach out to? Spanish speaking puerto ricans and mexicans...thats it. they give no reason for someone whos a casual fan to want to buy it because they dont promote it to americans, and they dont project the fight as 2 boxing warriors going at ity.


MMA appeals to that crowd of americans who want to see a fight and a fighter, MMA isnt just alot of whites, there are lots of asians, brazillians, europeans in it, but they arent promoted like crazy as the NEXT BRAZILLIAN SENSATION!

No, they are put out like the next MMA sensation, in english on american tv. Boxing needs this ****.

Just look at the fans on here. Most of the cotto supports are have PR Flags in their sigs, Margarito fans are almost all mexican, mayweather supporters almost all black. That should tell you the story right there. Fighters/fans dont even aim to cross into different fanbases anymore, and neither do promoters.

[hello2007]

sorry dude but you are wrong

[2501]

Man, Americans for the most part are lost on boxing because the sport itself decided to make it basically ethnically geared. I mean when you think about it, most mexicans support mexicans, puerto ricans support puerto ricans, pinoys support pinoys. But americans? For the most part, i we dont support much of anything unless he/she is a reigonal person.

Americans promote americans fighting americans, and if they arent american, they promote them without the flag of another country, or another countries culture thrown in your face. By that i mean "Mexican Glory" or "Latin Fury"

Boxing began to lose when what country you came from came before the fighter/fight itself. The moment we stopped caring about our olympians when they came out of the amatuers and when we stopped supporting our own, is how boxing in this country began to lose its way. All of these ethnically charged PPV's dont help, why would a black man in florida be interested in a ppv called "mexican glory"?

Why would a white man in missouri care about miguel cotto when hes being promoted exclusively as the next puerto rican sensation, as opposed to the next boxing sensation?

Appealing to races is whats hurting our sport majorly, instead of building up a reigonal fanbase and promoting say, latin fighters, IN ENGLISH on FREE TV, we promote spanish language fighters, on exclusively spanish language tv, to appeal to who? SPANISH SPEAKING PEOPLE.

Cotto Vs Margarito should be huge! but who will they only reach out to? Spanish speaking puerto ricans and mexicans...thats it. they give no reason for someone whos a casual fan to want to buy it because they dont promote it to americans, and they dont project the fight as 2 boxing warriors going at ity.


MMA appeals to that crowd of americans who want to see a fight and a fighter, MMA isnt just alot of whites, there are lots of asians, brazillians, europeans in it, but they arent promoted like crazy as the NEXT BRAZILLIAN SENSATION!

No, they are put out like the next MMA sensation, in english on american tv. Boxing needs this ****.

Just look at the fans on here. Most of the cotto supports are have PR Flags in their sigs, Margarito fans are almost all mexican, mayweather supporters almost all black. That should tell you the story right there. Fighters/fans dont even aim to cross into different fanbases anymore, and neither do promoters.

what you are saying would have merit if this kind of custom was just recently introduced but Boxing has always been an ethnic and nationalistic sport.

we can write down the many reasons why boxing is in decline, but the biggest and most damaging reason is that exciting fights aren't being made. simple as that.

[cuzfozzy]

boxing has gone down because the boxers suck
its that simple .. once we get some good boxers
or rather fighters then the sport will come alive again
boxing has always had cycles. it ****** till tyson came around
in the late 80's.

[El Jesus]

what you are saying would have merit if this kind of custom was just recently introduced but Boxing has always been an ethnic and nationalistic sport.

we can write down the many reasons why boxing is in decline, but the biggest and most damaging reason is that exciting fights aren't being made. simple as that.

Even as an ethnic sport, without americans supporting americans, and im not talking about mayweather or pavlik, im talking about newer stars coming from here, or out of the 08 olympics, promotion in the amatuers and into their pro careers. Boxing is down in the united states, but not in other countries. Without good fighters fighting on tv for free it hurts the sport, especially when you see our olympians getting close to no support right now.

[Sin City]

Man, Americans for the most part are lost on boxing because the sport itself decided to make it basically ethnically geared. I mean when you think about it, most mexicans support mexicans, puerto ricans support puerto ricans, pinoys support pinoys. But americans? For the most part, i we dont support much of anything unless he/she is a reigonal person.

Americans promote americans fighting americans, and if they arent american, they promote them without the flag of another country, or another countries culture thrown in your face. By that i mean "Mexican Glory" or "Latin Fury"

Boxing began to lose when what country you came from came before the fighter/fight itself. The moment we stopped caring about our olympians when they came out of the amatuers and when we stopped supporting our own, is how boxing in this country began to lose its way. All of these ethnically charged PPV's dont help, why would a black man in florida be interested in a ppv called "mexican glory"?

Why would a white man in missouri care about miguel cotto when hes being promoted exclusively as the next puerto rican sensation, as opposed to the next boxing sensation?

Appealing to races is whats hurting our sport majorly, instead of building up a reigonal fanbase and promoting say, latin fighters, IN ENGLISH on FREE TV, we promote spanish language fighters, on exclusively spanish language tv, to appeal to who? SPANISH SPEAKING PEOPLE.

Cotto Vs Margarito should be huge! but who will they only reach out to? Spanish speaking puerto ricans and mexicans...thats it. they give no reason for someone whos a casual fan to want to buy it because they dont promote it to americans, and they dont project the fight as 2 boxing warriors going at ity.


MMA appeals to that crowd of americans who want to see a fight and a fighter, MMA isnt just alot of whites, there are lots of asians, brazillians, europeans in it, but they arent promoted like crazy as the NEXT BRAZILLIAN SENSATION!

No, they are put out like the next MMA sensation, in english on american tv. Boxing needs this ****.

Just look at the fans on here. Most of the cotto supports are have PR Flags in their sigs, Margarito fans are almost all mexican, mayweather supporters almost all black. That should tell you the story right there. Fighters/fans dont even aim to cross into different fanbases anymore, and neither do promoters.

Mayweather supporters on this site are mostly white suburban kids who think 50 Cent is Jesus!
Cotto has a lot of Mexican fans on the site too.. but for the most part I agree with your statements.

[shadeyfizzle]

Tyson was an american fighter with plenty of American support. The average american will watch mma because its more entertaing than whatever is on the next channel, not because they are big fans of any1 specific. If mma was so geared towards Americans why is it so big in japan and russia and why are its biggest names ethnic non-americans?? Anderson/Wanderlei Silva, Arlovski, CroCop, Emilianenko,Gracie, Fujita, Sakuraba, Cung Le?? You can count the number of American mma champs on 2 hands while its list of international celebrities go on and on

[El Jesus]

Tyson was an american fighter with plenty of American support. The average american will watch mma because its more entertaing than whatever is on the next channel, not because they are big fans of any1 specific. If mma was so geared towards Americans why is it so big in japan and russia and why are its biggest names ethnic non-americans?? Anderson/Wanderlei Silva, Arlovski, CroCop, Emilianenko,Gracie, Fujita, Sakuraba, Cung Le?? You can count the number of American mma champs on 2 hands while its list of international celebrities go on and on

Cung Le fights out of san jose, you cant count him.

I think you are missing my point, crossover appeal happens in MMA with ethnic stars because they dont promote them exclusibvely to their cultural fanbase in america, they cross promote them as faces of the sport, as opposed to faces of their country first.

[shadeyfizzle]

Cung Le fights out of san jose, you cant count him.

I think you are missing my point, crossover appeal happens in MMA with ethnic stars because they dont promote them exclusibvely to their cultural fanbase in america, they cross promote them as faces of the sport, as opposed to faces of their country first.

So that's boxing promotions's fault for not doing the same. MMA guys are no less nationalistic than boxers. Thats why you see The brazilian/japanese flag at someone's corner every mma fight. The problem is the difference in marketing approach, not target audience IMO

[DiegoFuego]

Americans have always dominated boxing. At any given point in boxing history, you can stop and check to see that the best fighter on the planet is an American. That's why we break up into regional issues of who we like. I would always support a guy from my hometown over anybody else, I don't care who they are. But right now with all of the best heavies in the world going to the NFL, we should be supporting our guys like none other. I'm not a big Pavlik fan. I think he's a very basic fighter and just begging to be taught a boxing lesson. ****, I thought Taylor taught him one. But I'll pull for Pavlik over overseas fighters any day.