Why do Fraud stans avoid this truth?

[rebmogul]

But, the fact of the matter remains, he has fought and won at 147. And, he already has confirmed publicly that he doesn't want to fight welterweights. He said it immediately after his last welterweight fight. Floyd couldn't beat the top 4 fighters in the division right now, which is why since November 2006, he hasn't fought a single one and made a ****load of excuses as to why. If he really felt he could do it, and if it was such easy work as he has said, why not just do it? Easy work, easy money, only a fool would refuse it, only a stan would believe it.



btw, what Floyd did at 130 and 135 over 4 years ago, has no bearing on todays pound for pound landscape. But if thats how you want to gauge it, lets throw in DLH as a number one contestant too, for he fought at 130 also and moved up farther to claim a middleweight title

except odh never won a middle weight title. both sturm and biatch hop handed him his ass. odh's win over sturm was purely a gift decision. sturm beat that ass.....

[Bad_Barracuda]

Floyd is 5'8, Hatton is 5' 6 and half. Thats the truth. The rest of your post I'll just disregard until you face up to the facts that Floyd is indeed bigger than Hatton. Now get with the program and stay truthful, its what this thread is about, FACTS!

You don't know **** about boxing..

Boxing is divided by WEIGHT...

Not HEIGHT and REACH..fool.

That's why there are no Height Championships..but Weight Championships instead.You KNOW this yourself..or you should.

Floyd is TALLER but Hatton is BIGGER

Hearns is TALLER but Hagler is BIGGER

Pavlik is taller than Tyson..but is he bigger???

[MindBat]

I reckon this subject won't ever die.

I'll chime in for the 403rd time and say that Floyd paid his dues while fighting under the radar for Bob Arum for a long time.

The real details of their relationship and how Arum managed Floyd's career, to Floyd's dismay, will probably never be known completely.

Although, Floyd was recognized as a top fighter even before he blew up to the current status he now enjoys, it wasn't until he broke away from Arum that he knew he could spread his wings and finally show what he was capable of. The results have been a far gone conclusion.

It seems like he timed his departure from Arum perfectly, then stepped into the spotlight he always knew would shine on him brightly when he went solo.

Right now, he's in a position to pick and choose his opponents, not to mention opponents that add marquee value and major cash to the events he wants to perform in.

Whether or not he fights them other guys, his legacy is cemented in the HOF.

And many will still consider him p4p the best fighter of his generation.

[Vasyl’s dad]

except odh never won a middle weight title. both sturm and biatch hop handed him his ass. odh's win over sturm was purely a gift decision. sturm beat that ass.....

Trust, I completely agree with everything you've just stated. However, what I said was partly in jest, partly in truth. I think Sturm was jobbed too, but so to was Castillo, different discussion another day. I was just trying to show that what Mayweather did at 130 and 135 to who, have no bearing on what hes done at 140 and above today. Just like what DLH did at 130 and 135 having nothing to do with 140 above. When someone says to me, "best fighter today", I'm going with what they've done recently and Floyd imo hasn't done as much as others lately to be called p4p number 1.

[THe TRiNiTY]

The thing about this comment that starts the thread is that....... MAYWEATHER isn't a TRUE welterweight. He can pretty much fight whoever he wants to fight.

My problem is that Cotto is a welterweight, but isn't the biggest. So it coudl still happen and be VERY reasonable.

[Fox McCloud]

Why do idiots have the same conversation everyday?

Not that I want this to happen, but wouldn't it be interesting if Floyd died... what the hell would this board talk about? Seriously... how many members would stop posting on here (from both camps, haters and lovers alike)...

We need more boxing fans and less Floyd enthusiasts/haters.

Show me where this thread has already been made and I'll delete it.

another thing, no need for name calling, act like a man and just be civil.

You don't think that there have been a zillion threads about Floyd not fighting welterweights? Seriously?

[Vasyl’s dad]

I reckon this subject won't ever die.

I'll chime in for the 403rd time and say that Floyd paid his dues while fighting under the radar for Bob Arum for a long time.

The real details of their relationship and how Arum managed Floyd's career, to Floyd's dismay, will probably never be known completely.

Although, Floyd was recognized as a top fighter even before he blew up to the current status he now enjoys, it wasn't until he broke away from Arum that he knew he could spread his wings and finally show what he was capable of. The results have been a far gone conclusion.

It seems like he timed his departure from Arum perfectly, then stepped into the spotlight he always knew would shine on him brightly when he went solo.

Right now, he's in a position to pick and choose his opponents, not to mention opponents that add marquee value and major cash to the events he wants to perform in.

Whether or not he fights them other guys, his legacy is cemented in the HOF.

And many will still consider him p4p the best fighter of his generation.

Based on things that he hasn't done at his fighting weight? I'm trying to figure out how that works. At this point, I see Floyd getting credit for things he hasn't even done. This is 2008, you just can't live 2004 for very long. What is simply impressive that Floyd has done in the 147 pound division to garner such praise? Who has he beat? Any welterweight ranked in the top 10. Then compare to the other 147 pound fighters and tell me how many top 10 ranked contenders each of them has faced. Don't get me wrong, Floyd is an incredible talent, but what he did back then has nothing to do with now.

Great for him he has the option to pick and choose his fights, but if not fighting the best, how can he be the best? Bigger bank account? Yea, he wins there, but boxing is based on in ring accomplishments and nothing more. Nobody really cares what his statements look like, its what his record against the best looks like. Right now, Floyd Mayweather Jr. isn't fighting the best and thats a fact. He has even said it himself I'll remind you once more. "I don't want a part of no welterweights". Again, I'll kindly ask, explain to me how that makes him pound for pound number 1 the best fighter today.

[MindBat]

They would've fought three or four years ago if Arum wasn't so protective of Cotto.

The opportunity is now there for both of them to get it on, which I wouldn't doubt is going to happen if Cotto beats down Margarito in stunning fashion.

If Cotto struggles with Marg, who is nowhere near Floyd's skill level, Cotto vs Floyd won't have much appeal to a boxing public demanding a great fight.

Again, the ball is in Cotto's court to blast Margarito out in spectacular fashion for a fight with Floyd to generate major interest among the boxing public.

HBO will, no doubt, pull out all the tops to hype Mayweather vs Cotto.

The fans who've been clamoring for it will finally get their wish.

[Vasyl’s dad]

Not that I want this to happen, but wouldn't it be interesting if Floyd died... what the hell would this board talk about? Seriously... how many members would stop posting on here (from both camps, haters and lovers alike)...

We need more boxing fans and less Floyd enthusiasts/haters.



You don't think that there have been a zillion threads about Floyd not fighting welterweights? Seriously?

Respectfully, you don't like it, you can just bounce. To answer your question, the board would talk about boxing like all forums. Mayweather is a guy that says outlandish things, fans say outlandish things so I and others felt compelled to voice our opinion of it when something outlandish is said or done by an athlete. You don't want to participate, cool. But if you wouldn't have taken the time to respond, you wouldn't keep threads you don't like from getting upped.






"Despite the rules I choose to be, one of the choosen few
leavin you confused, dazed and what got you all amazed
How the **** we could be so blazed?" Big Duke

[Bad_Barracuda]

I reckon this subject won't ever die.

I'll chime in for the 403rd time and say that Floyd paid his dues while fighting under the radar for Bob Arum for a long time.

The real details of their relationship and how Arum managed Floyd's career, to Floyd's dismay, will probably never be known completely.

Although, Floyd was recognized as a top fighter even before he blew up to the current status he now enjoys, it wasn't until he broke away from Arum that he knew he could spread his wings and finally show what he was capable of. The results have been a far gone conclusion.

It seems like he timed his departure from Arum perfectly, then stepped into the spotlight he always knew would shine on him brightly when he went solo.

Right now, he's in a position to pick and choose his opponents, not to mention opponents that add marquee value and major cash to the events he wants to perform in.

Whether or not he fights them other guys, his legacy is cemented in the HOF.

And many will still consider him p4p the best fighter of his generation.

Now that's one helluva post.