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  • bsrizpac
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    #21
    Originally posted by 2501
    everyone wants to be a Texan at heart.
    lol . Yeah that's exactly it. I love Texans. You guys are so silly. Absolutely overdramatic, overdefensive, trumpeting loudly about your ****** state even though no one gives a ****, all the while getting upset and angry if anyone doesn't think Texas is the best thing since sliced bread.

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      #22
      Originally posted by bsrizpac
      lol . Yeah that's exactly it. I love Texans. You guys are so silly. Absolutely overdramatic, overdefensive, trumpeting loudly about your ****** state even though no one gives a ****, all the while getting upset and angry if anyone doesn't think Texas is the best thing since sliced bread.
      You forgot to mention what makes our state awesome..





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        #23
        Originally posted by LondonRingRules
        Here are the current ********* rankings of every division Floydy has fought in. Ring placed him in their top p4p slot after July of '05 when Taylor knocked off Hopkins. He had been #2 during Hopkins reign which didn't last long, starting from when long time Ring #1 Jones got knocked out by Tarver with the shot heard 'round the world.

        Light middle: 1. Sergei Dzindziruk
        2. Oscar De La Hoya
        3. Vernon Forrest
        4. Joachim Alcine
        5. Ricardo Mayorga
        6. Sechew Powell
        7. Verno Phillips
        8. Lukas Konecny
        9. Joel Julio
        10. Cory Spinks
        11. Travis Simms
        12. Z. Baysangurov
        13. James Kirkland
        14. Daniel Santos
        15. Sergio Martinez
        16. Julio Cesar Chavez Jr.

        So far, so good. Floydy only one fight here, faced the #2 guy, but what a dire list. Mayorga #5? Not a comprehensive win for Floydy, but a disputed split.

        Welter: 1. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
        2. Miguel Cotto
        3. Shane Mosley
        4. Antonio Margarito
        5. Carlos Quintana
        6. Paul Williams
        7. Kermit Cintron
        8. Andre Berto
        9. Zab Judah
        10. Joshua Clottey
        11. Yuri Nuzhnenko
        12. Luis Collazo
        13. Shamone Alvarez
        14. Jan Zaveck
        15. Demetrius Hopkins
        16. Richard Guttierez

        Floydy top dog here, but only faced one guy on the list, #9, Judah, a fight Floydy should have been DQed in when good ol' Uncle Rog jumped in the middle of a round and attacked Judah. The other top guys have been fighting each other the last few years. Floydy holds the WBC belt, and hasn't faced WBC #1, Berto, or #3, Collazo. Hmmmm, Floydy's first fight after ascension to number 1 was welter fight against Mitchell, not exactly p4p material, then Zab, and then? OK, must of been based on previous work, so let's look on,

        Junior Welt: 1. Ricky Hatton
        2. Andreas Kotelnik
        3. Ricardo Torres
        4. Paul Malignaggi
        5. Timothy Bradley
        6. Juan Urango
        7. Kendall Holt
        8. Junior Witter
        9. Herman Ngoudjo
        10. Lovemore N'dou
        11. Randall Bailey
        12. Vivian Harris
        13. Gavin Rees
        14. Souleymane M’Baye
        15. Marcos Maidana
        16. Victor Ortiz

        OK, Floydy's fought the top junior welt in his last fight, but fought him at welter. Well, Floydy only in this division 3 fights, so lets look further.

        Lightweight: 1. Nate Campbell
        2. Joel Casamayor
        3. Juan Diaz
        4. Michael Katsidis
        5. David Diaz
        6. Amir Khan
        7. Joan Guzman
        8. Julio Diaz
        9. J.A. Santa Cruz
        10. Almazvek Raimkulov
        11. Jesus Chavez
        12. Prawet Singwancha
        13. Yuri Romanov
        14. Randy Suico
        15. Edner Cherry
        16. Anthony Peterson

        Floydy has fought only the #11 guy, Jesus Chavez, but fought him as a superfeather, so lets look further.

        Superfeather: 1. Manny Pacquiao
        2. Juan Manuel Marquez
        3. Edwin Valero
        4. Alex Arthur
        5. Marco Antonio Barrera
        6. Jorge Barrios
        7. Humberto Soto
        8. Cassius Baloyi
        9. Yuriorkis Gamboa
        10. Urbano Antillon
        11. Kevin Mitchell
        12. Mzonke Fana
        13. Gairy St. Clair
        14. Rocky Juarez
        15. Malcolm Klassen
        16. Vitali Tajbert

        Hmmm, Floydy ain't fought a single top superfeather.

        So, in the 5 divisions in his career, the Ring #1 has fought 3 of the current top 79 fighters in the list. Is this possible, or ever happened before?

        Just a glance at Floydy's comp for this Ring honor, Manny Pac is scheduled to challenge the #5 lightweight in a couple of months. Floydy's fight with Oscar still unsigned and may not be for a title.

        Manny has fought his main ********* superfeather challenger, #2 Marquez twice now, and #5 Barrera twice also.

        At feather, Manny has fought the #11 guy, Jorge Solis. No fighter beyond feather on the ********* rankings appears on Manny's record, so that's 5 fights with ********* current top fighters vs 3 for Floydy. Manny will be making his debut in a division 7 divisions above his debut weight which was just a single pound over the strawweight limit. Maybe had Manny known he was making this kind of history, he could've chewed gum and spit for a hour before the weighin and made the strawweight limit.

        Some consider Joe Calzaghe in the running, though he's had only one fight above his debut weight. He's recently beat the ********* #2 lightheavy, being #1 himself, and beat the #2 supermiddle, the #9, and the #14 for 4 fights against the ********* rankings.

        It seems to me that Manny fits the original definition of p4p fighter, dominating the divisions well above his debut, compared to Floydy who seems to be tiptoeing and teetering these past few years since obtaining the Ring honor.

        Maybe someone can refresh me on how Floydy obtained this lofty title in the face of this substantial competition. If it's defeats by Manny, well, Joe undefeated.

        What say you? Anyone work for Ring care to "chime" in?
        i am no mayweather fan but this i need to say this: USE SOME PLAIN AND BASIC COMMON SENSE WILL YA???

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          #24
          Originally posted by VIVA MEXICO!!
          i am no mayweather fan but this i need to say this: USE SOME PLAIN AND BASIC COMMON SENSE WILL YA???
          Plain and basic common sense says that Margarito will stop Cotto

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            #25
            Originally posted by LondonRingRules
            Here are the current ********* rankings of every division Floydy has fought in. Ring placed him in their top p4p slot after July of '05 when Taylor knocked off Hopkins. He had been #2 during Hopkins reign which didn't last long, starting from when long time Ring #1 Jones got knocked out by Tarver with the shot heard 'round the world.

            Light middle: 1. Sergei Dzindziruk
            2. Oscar De La Hoya
            3. Vernon Forrest
            4. Joachim Alcine
            5. Ricardo Mayorga
            6. Sechew Powell
            7. Verno Phillips
            8. Lukas Konecny
            9. Joel Julio
            10. Cory Spinks
            11. Travis Simms
            12. Z. Baysangurov
            13. James Kirkland
            14. Daniel Santos
            15. Sergio Martinez
            16. Julio Cesar Chavez Jr.

            So far, so good. Floydy only one fight here, faced the #2 guy, but what a dire list. Mayorga #5? Not a comprehensive win for Floydy, but a disputed split.

            Welter: 1. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
            2. Miguel Cotto
            3. Shane Mosley
            4. Antonio Margarito
            5. Carlos Quintana
            6. Paul Williams
            7. Kermit Cintron
            8. Andre Berto
            9. Zab Judah
            10. Joshua Clottey
            11. Yuri Nuzhnenko
            12. Luis Collazo
            13. Shamone Alvarez
            14. Jan Zaveck
            15. Demetrius Hopkins
            16. Richard Guttierez

            Floydy top dog here, but only faced one guy on the list, #9, Judah, a fight Floydy should have been DQed in when good ol' Uncle Rog jumped in the middle of a round and attacked Judah. The other top guys have been fighting each other the last few years. Floydy holds the WBC belt, and hasn't faced WBC #1, Berto, or #3, Collazo. Hmmmm, Floydy's first fight after ascension to number 1 was welter fight against Mitchell, not exactly p4p material, then Zab, and then? OK, must of been based on previous work, so let's look on,

            Junior Welt: 1. Ricky Hatton
            2. Andreas Kotelnik
            3. Ricardo Torres
            4. Paul Malignaggi
            5. Timothy Bradley
            6. Juan Urango
            7. Kendall Holt
            8. Junior Witter
            9. Herman Ngoudjo
            10. Lovemore N'dou
            11. Randall Bailey
            12. Vivian Harris
            13. Gavin Rees
            14. Souleymane M’Baye
            15. Marcos Maidana
            16. Victor Ortiz

            OK, Floydy's fought the top junior welt in his last fight, but fought him at welter. Well, Floydy only in this division 3 fights, so lets look further.

            Lightweight: 1. Nate Campbell
            2. Joel Casamayor
            3. Juan Diaz
            4. Michael Katsidis
            5. David Diaz
            6. Amir Khan
            7. Joan Guzman
            8. Julio Diaz
            9. J.A. Santa Cruz
            10. Almazvek Raimkulov
            11. Jesus Chavez
            12. Prawet Singwancha
            13. Yuri Romanov
            14. Randy Suico
            15. Edner Cherry
            16. Anthony Peterson

            Floydy has fought only the #11 guy, Jesus Chavez, but fought him as a superfeather, so lets look further.

            Superfeather: 1. Manny Pacquiao
            2. Juan Manuel Marquez
            3. Edwin Valero
            4. Alex Arthur
            5. Marco Antonio Barrera
            6. Jorge Barrios
            7. Humberto Soto
            8. Cassius Baloyi
            9. Yuriorkis Gamboa
            10. Urbano Antillon
            11. Kevin Mitchell
            12. Mzonke Fana
            13. Gairy St. Clair
            14. Rocky Juarez
            15. Malcolm Klassen
            16. Vitali Tajbert

            Hmmm, Floydy ain't fought a single top superfeather.

            So, in the 5 divisions in his career, the Ring #1 has fought 3 of the current top 79 fighters in the list. Is this possible, or ever happened before?

            Just a glance at Floydy's comp for this Ring honor, Manny Pac is scheduled to challenge the #5 lightweight in a couple of months. Floydy's fight with Oscar still unsigned and may not be for a title.

            Manny has fought his main ********* superfeather challenger, #2 Marquez twice now, and #5 Barrera twice also.

            At feather, Manny has fought the #11 guy, Jorge Solis. No fighter beyond feather on the ********* rankings appears on Manny's record, so that's 5 fights with ********* current top fighters vs 3 for Floydy. Manny will be making his debut in a division 7 divisions above his debut weight which was just a single pound over the strawweight limit. Maybe had Manny known he was making this kind of history, he could've chewed gum and spit for a hour before the weighin and made the strawweight limit.

            Some consider Joe Calzaghe in the running, though he's had only one fight above his debut weight. He's recently beat the ********* #2 lightheavy, being #1 himself, and beat the #2 supermiddle, the #9, and the #14 for 4 fights against the ********* rankings.

            It seems to me that Manny fits the original definition of p4p fighter, dominating the divisions well above his debut, compared to Floydy who seems to be tiptoeing and teetering these past few years since obtaining the Ring honor.

            Maybe someone can refresh me on how Floydy obtained this lofty title in the face of this substantial competition. If it's defeats by Manny, well, Joe undefeated.

            What say you? Anyone work for Ring care to "chime" in?
            The top 10 of those divisions was not the same when Floyd was fighting there.

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              #26
              Originally posted by 2501
              You forgot to mention what makes our state awesome..





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              I'll give you guns and white girls.

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                #27
                Originally posted by bsrizpac
                I'll give you guns and white girls.
                we have plenty. and i normally have them with a thick juicy longhorn steak son.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by natas206
                  definitely some hot ass females in texas, and because of that (great) fact alone, texas doesn't suck
                  yeah, but most of them aren't from texas

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by MikeBrew328
                    yeah, but most of them aren't from texas
                    doesnt help you much being in new york and all

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by MikeBrew328
                      yeah, but most of them aren't from texas
                      that logic is ****** anyway. If we were just judging it based on that, we'd say that a country like Lebanon is one of the best in the world.

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